ATP's 2 day course

[Texasspilot]

Suppost to do the 2 day course next week but there little book kinda sucks.

Do they have any actual systems diagrams online or anywhere else? All i got was a book about 10 pages thick with some basic crap in it.

[aloft]

Do yourself a favor and go buy a copy of the Seminole POH.

[stuckingfk]

I got one for sale.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by Texasspilot

Suppost to do the 2 day course next week but there little book kinda sucks.

Do they have any actual systems diagrams online or anywhere else? All i got was a book about 10 pages thick with some basic crap in it.

LOL! It's actually a pretty informative book... It's got all the manuevers and power settings spelled out for you... the profiles... V-Speeds... Good descriptions of the fuel system etc. However... It is called a "supplement" since it is designed to "supplement" the actual POH.

I'd suggest, that if you want to get a bit more into the systems then go grab a seminole POH if you can.

Other than that... just read up in the supplement on the systems and when you get to ATP they should have fuel diagrams etc... for you to view. In fact... you might want to just call the 800 number and have them fax you the fuel diagram. Either that... or have them put you in touch with whoever your instructor will be and that way you can ask him/her to fax you whatever information you may be looking for over and above the supplement. Each instructor keeps and uses their own notes and diagrams so I'm sure they'll be able to help.

That said... the 'nole is a very simple aircraft, from the fuel system to the electrical to the hydraulic... Most of what is in the supplement should give you that basic understanding of the aircraft. After all... you are not going for your CFI initial in the Multi... The ATP oral should be a basic overview of systems, v-speeds, and maybe an emergency checklist item along with VMC knowledge (only if your are centerline thrust restricted) and that's pretty much it.

It will most likely be one of the easiest checkrides you've done so far.

Good luck!

Bob

[Texasspilot]

I've been told its basically a single engine, multi-engine checkride.

I'm sure the systems are all standard airplane systems but having a picture in my head makes it way easier to explain.

Thanks for the idea about having them fax that junk to me..I'll call em.

You'd figure for the 1500bucks you'd get a dang POH out of the deal.

I've pretty much got that supplement memorized except the profiles....

....now if I can fight off this headcold over the weekend I should be set for the checkride on the 27th.

[SkyHawg]

You need to know that suppliment cold without a moments hesitation. Be able to do all checklists & manuevers by memory. You will be happy you did.

[JUSTFORGRINS]

Capn Bob knows his stuff... he got my ride on the nose.

Did the 4 day ATP ride (January) in PHX. It is expected that you are pretty proficient on the Garmin 430. Use the simulator download from Garmin, fly the approaches at your training location.

My examiner did a 1.7 hobbs flight with maybe 45 minute oral. The flight followed the PTS regarding types of approaches (precison/nonprecsion), engine out approaches, missed approaches. Look at the PTS and know the required tasks (not examiner optional) for the certificate. You definitely will be flying the required tasks.

The ATP instructor should know how the examiner tests and should tailor you
prep for that examiner.

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by JUSTFORGRINS

The ATP instructor should know how the examiner tests and should tailor you
prep for that examiner.

Know the PTS first and foremost... then if there's time... sure... get a gouge on the examiner.

Bob

[BobDDuck]

Originally Posted by JUSTFORGRINS

Did the 4 day ATP ride (January) in PHX.

Who's doing checkrides at Willie these days?

Texasspilot, your CFI SHOULD have a pretty good diagram of the fuel system as well as the prop governor. Those were really the only 2 systems that most DEs went after. They understand that you aren't flying the Seminole regularly and are more likely to ask you general multi engine and IFR theory stuff. I'm blanking momentarily (there are too many pilots from Texas here) but I think you are a freight dog? If so you will be fine with the IFR stuff.

[JEP]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Who's doing checkrides at Willie these days?

Texasspilot, your CFI SHOULD have a pretty good diagram of the fuel system as well as the prop governor. Those were really the only 2 systems that most DEs went after. They understand that you aren't flying the Seminole regularly and are more likely to ask you general multi engine and IFR theory stuff. I'm blanking momentarily (there are too many pilots from Texas here) but I think you are a freight dog? If so you will be fine with the IFR stuff.

That would be Stone_Cold who dumped the freight gig for the shiny new lear60.

I think TexassPilot is flying a KingAir ambulance type gig now....But then again, my mind could be blanking as well.