ATP CFI Opinion Needed

Future DIA Pilot · February 18th, 2007, 18:22

Do you think there is enough time in the day to be a CFI for ATP while doing an online 4 year bachelor's degree? Thank you.

TechFlyer · February 18th, 2007, 19:09

I asked the same question a few months ago. They said it would be very difficult, probably impossible if you instruct at a busy location like Phoenix or Jax. If you are at a slower location it might be possible. I'm sure an instructor could help you out more but that's what I was told.

SkyHawg · February 18th, 2007, 21:35

I am doing it with Embry Riddle Distance Online. But it's easy. It compromises of a weekly reading assignment, a midterm, and a final. Pretty easy. But I only take 6 hours at a time.

CaptainChris87 · February 19th, 2007, 00:00

It maybe difficult to accomplish, but if you read the story of Travis Fine on their packet he was able to do it. Being an ATP CFI is a full time committment even on the weekends.

awseft · February 19th, 2007, 12:17

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainChris87

It maybe difficult to accomplish, but if you read the story of Travis Fine on their packet he was able to do it. Being an ATP CFI is a full time committment even on the weekends.

Unless your in Daytona. This past weekend they used the race as an excuse to give everyone the weekend off blaming the TFR. There were plenty of planes taking off/landing.

SpiraMirabilis · February 19th, 2007, 12:25

How many times a year does the Daytona 500 happen again?

JBUCREW · February 27th, 2007, 10:08

Quote:

Originally Posted by awseft

Unless your in Daytona. This past weekend they used the race as an excuse to give everyone the weekend off blaming the TFR. There were plenty of planes taking off/landing.

The few days before and after the 500 DAB is slot restricted and you must get an arrival and departure slot. You may have seen planes coming and going but it's all time restricted.
This is also the only weekend those instructors will have off until Thanksgiving and Christmas. Give' em a break!

BobDDuck · March 1st, 2007, 13:55

Travis Fine is an exception to the rule. The dude was CRAZY motivated (in a good way).

LAFF · March 2nd, 2007, 16:57

No BS...What are the odds of someone getting hired at ATP as a CFI that goes thru their CFI program and not the whole 90 day program.

I'm flexible and willing to work at any of their centers in the south and east coasts if needed.

I'm looking at all options and it looks like the best one for the training is a local FBO that comes highly recommended w/ good refs.

Thanks,
LAFF

SpiraMirabilis · March 2nd, 2007, 17:02

The odds are good.

Captain_Bob · March 2nd, 2007, 18:28

With the way the Regionals are snapping up instructors these days... and with your background... I'd say you'd have no problem.

Bob

jump2live · March 3rd, 2007, 13:14

LAFF, things can change in 2-3 years, but for now it seems everyones in need of CFI's

LAFF · March 3rd, 2007, 14:17

I'm leaning towards getting into full time instruction at Bakersfield or Napa. I'd like to get back to California. I enjoyed the multi-cultural , punjabi communities in that state. I haven't found that anywhere else in the USA.

_LAFF

Captain_Bob · March 3rd, 2007, 14:26

Bakersfield is nice... that's the first and only place I've ever had "French-basque" food.

Bob

LAFF · March 3rd, 2007, 14:38

You work at ATP?

I just called their 1-800# and asked about the CFI programs and instructing after I'm done.

Things will change but I'm sure ATP will always hire people that want to instruct there. I got the feeling they, like most places, have a soft spot for military vets. <grin>

Two years or more at one of those established academies is a good deal. Who knows it may open up more doors later in management with them down the road...

Ok...I getting more of a solid plan together for training and those critical time building / paying your dues years...

-LAFF

Captain_Bob · March 3rd, 2007, 15:08

Yeah... ATP was actually founded on getting Military guys their ATP rating when they were transitioning out to civvie life and applying at the airlines... so there is definately a soft spot for those that served.

I used to instruct for them from '03-'04... I'm an FO at ExpressJet now.

I'm in the process of trying to create an Alumni Association for them... so I still try to stay in contact with what going on.

I know a fellow who used to instruct there at Bakersfield for IFTA (Nippon) from 92-98... he's a senior Captain with us... if you'd like... I'd be happy to try to hook you two up if you have any questions if that's the route of instruction your looking for out there. He was a flight instructor and the Chief Ground instructor for them.

Bob

LAFF · March 4th, 2007, 01:47

Please do get us in contact with each other.

I won't be doing it for as long as he did but I certainly want to for 2-3 years. I have no issue with their 2 year gentleman's agreement.

I fly on Expressjet all the time. I grw up in KLFT - for many years only way home on leave was thru Houston on Expressjet.

-LAFF

Airdale · March 5th, 2007, 22:03

Prior military - you would love training/working at ATP. I went right into their 60 day Private program and then the Career pilot program straight out of the Coast Guard and loved the regimented strict training environment. Its get it done right the first time or go home, and I loved it. Some guys didn't do so well with the stress of having to fly with the Chief pilot, but I actually liked the guy. He's funny as heck, prior military, and the dude can fly anything with wings or rotors.

But ATP is definitely friendly to the military. Just going through their program out of Active duty life was a nice transition for me.

February 18th, 2007, 18:22	#1
Future DIA Pilot Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 55	ATP CFI Opinion Needed Do you think there is enough time in the day to be a CFI for ATP while doing an online 4 year bachelor's degree? Thank you.

February 18th, 2007, 19:09	#2
TechFlyer Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 346	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed I asked the same question a few months ago. They said it would be very difficult, probably impossible if you instruct at a busy location like Phoenix or Jax. If you are at a slower location it might be possible. I'm sure an instructor could help you out more but that's what I was told.

February 18th, 2007, 21:35	#3
SkyHawg Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 570	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed I am doing it with Embry Riddle Distance Online. But it's easy. It compromises of a weekly reading assignment, a midterm, and a final. Pretty easy. But I only take 6 hours at a time. __________________ I don't mind coming to work, but that eight hour wait to go home is a bitch. CFI.CFII.MEI. 1200TT 400ME.

February 19th, 2007, 00:00	#4
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Location: O.C. Posts: 1,779	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed It maybe difficult to accomplish, but if you read the story of Travis Fine on their packet he was able to do it. Being an ATP CFI is a full time committment even on the weekends. __________________ -CP/MEL-IR;AGI -Former Airline Intern,Sightseeing tours pilot -A.A.:Trasnfer Studies. Cal-State Fullerton: Finance/Entrepreneurship -Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity.-Pledge/Sigma President

February 19th, 2007, 12:25	#6
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,456	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed How many times a year does the Daytona 500 happen again?

March 1st, 2007, 13:55	#8
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,737	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed Travis Fine is an exception to the rule. The dude was CRAZY motivated (in a good way). __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

March 2nd, 2007, 16:57	#9
LAFF Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 122	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed No BS...What are the odds of someone getting hired at ATP as a CFI that goes thru their CFI program and not the whole 90 day program. I'm flexible and willing to work at any of their centers in the south and east coasts if needed. I'm looking at all options and it looks like the best one for the training is a local FBO that comes highly recommended w/ good refs. Thanks, LAFF

March 2nd, 2007, 17:02	#10
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,456	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed The odds are good.

March 2nd, 2007, 18:28	#11
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,899	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed With the way the Regionals are snapping up instructors these days... and with your background... I'd say you'd have no problem. Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

March 3rd, 2007, 13:14	#12
jump2live Newbie Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 29	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed LAFF, things can change in 2-3 years, but for now it seems everyones in need of CFI's

March 3rd, 2007, 14:17	#13
LAFF Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 122	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed I'm leaning towards getting into full time instruction at Bakersfield or Napa. I'd like to get back to California. I enjoyed the multi-cultural , punjabi communities in that state. I haven't found that anywhere else in the USA. _LAFF

March 3rd, 2007, 14:26	#14
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,899	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed Bakersfield is nice... that's the first and only place I've ever had "French-basque" food. Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

March 3rd, 2007, 14:38	#15
LAFF Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 122	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed You work at ATP? I just called their 1-800# and asked about the CFI programs and instructing after I'm done. Things will change but I'm sure ATP will always hire people that want to instruct there. I got the feeling they, like most places, have a soft spot for military vets. <grin> Two years or more at one of those established academies is a good deal. Who knows it may open up more doors later in management with them down the road... Ok...I getting more of a solid plan together for training and those critical time building / paying your dues years... -LAFF

March 3rd, 2007, 15:08	#16
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,899	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed Yeah... ATP was actually founded on getting Military guys their ATP rating when they were transitioning out to civvie life and applying at the airlines... so there is definately a soft spot for those that served. I used to instruct for them from '03-'04... I'm an FO at ExpressJet now. I'm in the process of trying to create an Alumni Association for them... so I still try to stay in contact with what going on. I know a fellow who used to instruct there at Bakersfield for IFTA (Nippon) from 92-98... he's a senior Captain with us... if you'd like... I'd be happy to try to hook you two up if you have any questions if that's the route of instruction your looking for out there. He was a flight instructor and the Chief Ground instructor for them. Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

March 4th, 2007, 01:47	#17
LAFF Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Posts: 122	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed Please do get us in contact with each other. I won't be doing it for as long as he did but I certainly want to for 2-3 years. I have no issue with their 2 year gentleman's agreement. I fly on Expressjet all the time. I grw up in KLFT - for many years only way home on leave was thru Houston on Expressjet. -LAFF

March 5th, 2007, 22:03	#18
Airdale Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirty Jerzey Posts: 2,109	Re: ATP CFI Opinion Needed Prior military - you would love training/working at ATP. I went right into their 60 day Private program and then the Career pilot program straight out of the Coast Guard and loved the regimented strict training environment. Its get it done right the first time or go home, and I loved it. Some guys didn't do so well with the stress of having to fly with the Chief pilot, but I actually liked the guy. He's funny as heck, prior military, and the dude can fly anything with wings or rotors. But ATP is definitely friendly to the military. Just going through their program out of Active duty life was a nice transition for me.

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