Lineman at VGT

C150J · July 16th, 2006, 02:58

Have any others had any negative dealings with a certain "head lineman" on the Cheyenne ramp (contracted by ATP, not an ATP employee)? I did a little training with ATPs and had an encounter with him that I considered a flight hazard.

I am writing an incident report to ATP admin. I'm not a salty vet (700/100TT), but I don't think I'm out of line. Just wanted to see if anyone else knows what I'm talking about.

J.

meritflyer · July 16th, 2006, 14:16

I think his name is Pete. The hispanic guy right? He is the ultimate a$$ hole. He walks around there like he owns the place. Very unprofessional and discourteous.

C150J · July 16th, 2006, 14:20

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Originally Posted by meritflyer

I think his name is Pete. The hispanic guy right? He is the ultimate a$$ hole. He walks around there like he owns the place. Very unprofessional and discourteous.

Pete was his name, not sure if he was hispanic. He started banging on our aircraft (while it was running) because "we weren't getting out of there fast enough" on one occassion and refused to fuel us on another (because "we didn't follow his orders" - whatever they were). We had to taxi across the field and I have yet to see an reimbursement from admin (it's been two months).

J.

meritflyer · July 16th, 2006, 14:41

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Originally Posted by C150J

Pete was his name, not sure if he was hispanic. He started banging on our aircraft (while it was running) because "we weren't getting out of there fast enough" on one occassion and refused to fuel us on another (because "we didn't follow his orders" - whatever they were). We had to taxi across the field and I have yet to see an reimbursement from admin (it's been two months).

J.

They say he takes medication. I dont know if thats a joke or what. But he is a D-BAG!!! I cant stand that guy. I'd file a report with the owner of Cheyenne, the airport manager, and ATP. I also saw him do some very safety-questionable acts.

C150J · July 16th, 2006, 14:46

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Originally Posted by meritflyer

They say he takes medication. I dont know if thats a joke or what. But he is a D-BAG!!! I cant stand that guy. I'd file a report with the owner of Cheyenne, the airport manager, and ATP. I also saw him do some very safety-questionable acts.

I'd just like to let ATP Admin know what's going on. I feel that the CFIs at VGT are too afraid to do anything, as they have to deal with him on a daily basis and don't want to ruffle any feathers with the brass. I'm not a huge fan of ATP, but sometimes I feel like situations would get taken care of if those in power actually knew what was going on.

J.

musicmixer · July 18th, 2006, 16:50

That guy is a tool, he was there in 04 when I went through the program. We used to call him the ramp Nazi.

jbp1 · July 20th, 2006, 02:36

Pete the Ramp Nazi.....Let Jim K know what he is doing. Pete thinks he owns Cheyenne. He is just a fueler for them and nothing more.

AP2B · July 20th, 2006, 09:38

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Originally Posted by jbp1

Pete the Ramp Nazi.....Let Jim K know what he is doing. Pete thinks he owns Cheyenne. He is just a fueler for them and nothing more.

No kidding. What's this doods problem. I'm laughing, imagining this little tyranical ramp rat running around treating pilots like crap.

aloft · July 20th, 2006, 18:16

Everybody's got a boss...just find out who his is and have a little heart-to-heart with them.

jayllamas · July 21st, 2006, 10:20

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Originally Posted by AP2B

No kidding. What's this doods problem. I'm laughing, imagining this little tyranical ramp rat running around treating pilots like crap.

They said people who treat pilots like crap...are the frustrated pilots!

desertdog71 · July 21st, 2006, 11:30

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Originally Posted by jayllamas

They said people who treat pilots like crap...are the frustrated pilots!

Take him behind the hangar and kick the snot out of him....

AP2B · July 21st, 2006, 14:09

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Originally Posted by jayllamas

They said people who treat pilots like crap...are the frustrated pilots!

ha ha. There's a little truth to that. Allthough i'd never be like that guy. Working the line can be great for networking, but it does have it's downfalls.
It's just a means to an end though. I wouldn't even recommend it to aspiring pilots. Tends to make you look at the airport like the low paying, dirty work place of employment that it is or,......can be. Ya'll know what I'm saying?

BB300 · July 24th, 2006, 21:00

The 'ramp nazi' is definitely difficult to deal with at times. ATP is well aware of the situation at Cheyenne Air Center, but it never hurts to share additional 'encounters.' Unfortunately speaking with Pete's supervisor will probably not get you anywhere as the same attitude is shared throughout. If you noticed there are many pretty, shiny jets at the Cheyenne Air Center; while ATP has 7 piston engines that are constantly making noise on that side of the airport..'annoying' many and making more work...which is amazing considering the hangar rent and amount of fuel purchased by ATP.

On the contrary the night and weekend lineman are awesome and have to deal with these issues as well. This surely gives us a reason to appreciate the good customer service typically received elsewhere.

July 16th, 2006, 02:58	#1
C150J Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 1,004	Lineman at VGT Have any others had any negative dealings with a certain "head lineman" on the Cheyenne ramp (contracted by ATP, not an ATP employee)? I did a little training with ATPs and had an encounter with him that I considered a flight hazard. I am writing an incident report to ATP admin. I'm not a salty vet (700/100TT), but I don't think I'm out of line. Just wanted to see if anyone else knows what I'm talking about. J.

July 16th, 2006, 14:16	#2
meritflyer Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Winchestertonfieldville Posts: 6,737	Re: Lineman at VGT I think his name is Pete. The hispanic guy right? He is the ultimate a$$ hole. He walks around there like he owns the place. Very unprofessional and discourteous. __________________ The simplest answer tends to be correct.

July 18th, 2006, 16:50	#6
musicmixer Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SLC Posts: 90	Re: Lineman at VGT That guy is a tool, he was there in 04 when I went through the program. We used to call him the ramp Nazi.

July 20th, 2006, 18:16	#9
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,006	Re: Lineman at VGT Everybody's got a boss...just find out who his is and have a little heart-to-heart with them. __________________ Commercial Pilot, ASEL/AMEL/IA 900+ TT/25 ME Mountain-qualified Search & Rescue/Disaster Relief Mission Pilot, Civil Air Patrol B.S., Psychology, Univ of Utah

July 24th, 2006, 21:00	#13
BB300 Newbie Join Date: May 2005 Posts: 28	Re: Lineman at VGT The 'ramp nazi' is definitely difficult to deal with at times. ATP is well aware of the situation at Cheyenne Air Center, but it never hurts to share additional 'encounters.' Unfortunately speaking with Pete's supervisor will probably not get you anywhere as the same attitude is shared throughout. If you noticed there are many pretty, shiny jets at the Cheyenne Air Center; while ATP has 7 piston engines that are constantly making noise on that side of the airport..'annoying' many and making more work...which is amazing considering the hangar rent and amount of fuel purchased by ATP. On the contrary the night and weekend lineman are awesome and have to deal with these issues as well. This surely gives us a reason to appreciate the good customer service typically received elsewhere.

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