Instructing at ATP and Finishing College

[TechFlyer]

I've searched the forums and it looks like this issue has been mentioned but a clear answer was never given. I'm two quarters from graduating and I'm thinking about doing the 90 day this fall. Afterwards I'd like to instruct and finish my degree during the winter and spring quarters through a few online courses. It sounds like this would be very difficult at one of the busier locations but what about at a slower location? Could this be an option?

[FlyingNole]

Its possible, but you don't get to pick your location, and you'll be working the office in JAX before you even get your location

[Eagle737]

Originally Posted by FlyingNole

Its possible, but you don't get to pick your location, and you'll be working the office in JAX before you even get your location

You def. will get to work in the JAX Corp. Office answering phones first, which you will have time for some online school work but you also have to be prepping for the "Rich Ride." That being said, you CAN pick your location. On the second day or so of Indoc. they will ask you in seniority order your top 3 choices for location... on a conditional understanding that by limiting the location you are willing to work for, you may end up in the call center in JAX longer. That said, welcome to my week four in the "pit" as I'm holding out for Dallas (Arlington). Many other guys have come and gone because they weren't wanting a specific spot, or the spot they wanted became open.

Chris

[Captain_Bob]

Originally Posted by Eagle737

That said, welcome to my week four in the "pit" as I'm holding out for Dallas (Arlington). Many other guys have come and gone because they weren't wanting a specific spot, or the spot they wanted became open.

Chris...

Dude, you can't log phone time! Get out there and fly... you'll get to Dallas eventually, but I swear you'll enjoy life better in the cock"pit" vs. the office"pit".

Bob

[Eagle737]

Hey Bob,
Sure you can log it.. Registration: 914V Type: Samsung SyncMaster =) I'm PIC'ing the desk!!!! Airlines are gonna love it.... I think it counts as SE Turbine thanks to the ducted fans =) The um... transfer to another location doesn't seem to be happening anymore like it used to... so for QOL, i'm in the hold with no EFC. I think things are gonna be lookin' good for dallas soon enough though.

Chris

[TechFlyer]

Thanks for your replies. I'm guessing Rich must be the chief pilot?

[Tram]

It would be impossible to go to school and work at one of the busy ATP locations..

[Eagle737]

Originally Posted by TechFlyer

Thanks for your replies. I'm guessing Rich must be the chief pilot?

Anytime... and yup, Rich is one of the chief pilots. He is the one with the infamous "Rich Ride;" which I actually found to be a lot of fun and not as hard as some have said. We sang, cracked jokes, and just enjoyed flyin'. He is not out to get you like some would have you believe. Rich knows a TON of stuff. If you fly confidently you'll have no problems, and actually not only will he help you with stuff he'll teach you a thing or two to help you out later. If you don't fly with confidence... well... It might not be such a fun flight. Granted you're an instructor and you should be PIC, so be the PIC. That's all he wants, a PIC that is safe.

Chris

[Tram]

Originally Posted by Eagle737

We sang, cracked jokes, and just enjoyed flyin'.

I think there are 2 Rich rides... My Rich ride was just like that.. "what the worrrlddd needssss noww.. is loovveeee sweeett lovveeee... " is what we sang..

[NYer914]

"little plastic Jesus, sittin' on the dashboard of my airplane!"

[Eagle737]

We sang some Irish Drinking Song.... and also he taught me the song to the cruise checklist... never knew their was a song to it... hehe "22... 23... four green left and right... cowl flaps as required... fuel pumps / landing lights... lean the mixtures one by one..." yadda yadda yadda...... Couldn't agree more with you about the 2 sides of the "Rich Ride" though... The other guy went first on my ride... wasn't pretty.

Chris

[bunchahoopla]

Originally Posted by Tram

It would be impossible to go to school and work at one of the busy ATP locations..

I actually took online classes (15 hours to be a full student) while doing my flight training and just finished up my classes while being an instructor at ATP. So, it can be done.

[Airdale]

Originally Posted by Eagle737

We sang some Irish Drinking Song.... and also he taught me the song to the cruise checklist... never knew their was a song to it... hehe "22... 23... four green left and right... cowl flaps as required... fuel pumps / landing lights... lean the mixtures one by one..." yadda yadda yadda...... Couldn't agree more with you about the 2 sides of the "Rich Ride" though... The other guy went first on my ride... wasn't pretty.

Chris

Dude....like you're forgetting the best line! "Ain't nobody fly this plane better then me....ain't that right?"

My Rich ride had literally 1 hour notice, I was a friggin unorganized wreck. I'm surprised I remembered what my name was, I felt like I was in such a daze that day. But it wasn't an impossible flight. I actually enjoy flying with Rich, even though its tougher then any checkride, because when he teaches, you learn a heck of a lot more then any other instructor could teach you. I flew pretty decent with him, in my opinion of course But I know I could have flown a lot better, it certainly wasn't my best two days in an airplane that's for sure. But Rich taught me an aweful lot in two days, and yesterday I flew with my first student, and all I could hear in my head was Rich's voice and the things I learned on my Rich ride. I was able to put it to use and I felt pretty good after the flight because the student did a great job for his first flight in a twin, and I'd like to think I did something right.

[Eagle737]

Bob,
My time in JAX is on its last leg I think. The first guy of 4 holding for Arlington was outbriefed and sent today. So, here I am, sittin pretty as number 1 for departure! Hopefully soon!

Chris

[Captain_Bob]

Good to know! Good luck!

Bob

[Tram]

Originally Posted by bunchahoopla

I actually took online classes (15 hours to be a full student) while doing my flight training and just finished up my classes while being an instructor at ATP. So, it can be done.

Yeh, online classes would be possible.. I wasn't thinking about online..