ATP Uniform Policy

JBUCREW · April 11th, 2006, 12:25

I dont want to bring this up again, this has been beaten to death!.... but I am trying get this straight. I read on the ATP website under the 90 program that there is a uniform policy, I dont really give sh%$ either way if we do or dont have to wear them at this point, but when I call ATP to find out how I should be prepared for the first day I can't get a straight answer on what I need to bring if anything? ie. black/blue pants/shorts etc..... At this point I gonna show up for my first day in swim shorts and sandles

anyway this is where I got this info on the website

Uniform Policy

Airlines recognize ATP as the leading provider of Regional Airline Pilots in the US. With the airlines’ increasing demand for pilots, ATP-trained pilots are getting hired within just months of starting training. A professional and uniform appearance reflects the standardization and discipline that the airlines consistently find in ATP pilots.
ATP provides students airline-style uniform pants, shirts, and epaulettes. For the summer months, the uniform will allow for shorts. Each student will provide his or her own black shoes and black belt. A tie is not required. Students must appear in uniform at all times when at an ATP Training Center and when flying ATP aircraft.

Goldmember · April 11th, 2006, 16:00

Looks like it states pretty clear there in the description that they provide you a uniform, and you are responsible for black shoes and a black belt. IF you're talking about arrival, dress the part man. Wear a button down collared shirt, slacks, dress shoes and belt. If I were running the place and you showed up in shorts and sandals, I'd send you home on the spot...

CRJDriver · April 11th, 2006, 17:29

Last thing I've heard was that the Uniforms haven't arrived, yet.

JBUCREW · April 11th, 2006, 17:53

UND thanks!

Goldmember
FYI-I was just kidding about the speedo and sandles!

later

Goldmember · April 11th, 2006, 18:21

I know dude, that's why I would send you home, keep your banana hamock to yourself..now if you were the chic in UND's avatar...that's a different story!

Timbuff10 · April 11th, 2006, 19:18

Uniforms... what a shame.

That should make for a comfy ride in the summer months.

JBUCREW · April 11th, 2006, 20:04

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember

I know dude, that's why I would send you home, keep your banana hamock to yourself..now if you were the chic in UND's avatar...that's a different story!

HA HA HA good point!

Timbuff10 · April 11th, 2006, 23:12

This reminds me, back when I was looking for a place to get my private at, I actually decided against one school based just on the fact that the instructors were "required" to wear ties.

It was about 90 degrees out when they were showing me this plane and I asked why everyone wears ties at the school. One of the CFIs rolled his eyes and said they had to. I was out of there right after that.

Sodbuster · April 12th, 2006, 19:08

The uniforms have been expected to arrive "next week" since February. The instructors are the only ones actually wearing any kind of uniform. In fact, the students are more casually dressed than ever.

bike21 · April 12th, 2006, 22:11

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbuff10

This reminds me, back when I was looking for a place to get my private at, I actually decided against one school based just on the fact that the instructors were "required" to wear ties.

It was about 90 degrees out when they were showing me this plane and I asked why everyone wears ties at the school. One of the CFIs rolled his eyes and said they had to. I was out of there right after that.

Yeah Tim, I know the school you are referring too. They made those poor CFIs where a tie no matter what! I once saw a CFI wearing a tie with a freaking polo shirt and running shoes!! I am certainly not the fashion police, but oh my!!

Timbuff10 · April 13th, 2006, 00:46

Yeah, that was the day they showed me the plane with 3 flat tires, and the cracked exhaust pipe. Also the day I met Andrew and he showed me a nice Cessna that could actually fly!

Nick · April 13th, 2006, 01:07

Quote:

Originally Posted by Timbuff10

Yeah, that was the day they showed me the plane with 3 flat tires, and the cracked exhaust pipe.

But the tie makes them more professional! Duh!

SIUav8er · April 13th, 2006, 02:15

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember

If I were running the place and you showed up in shorts and sandals, I'd send you home on the spot...

so youd kick out a customer that just forked over $44,000 to your company just cause they were unsure on how to dress? lol, thats funny

Goldmember · April 13th, 2006, 12:44

Life's not all about money Haas...You think Harvard is going to take you just cause you can pay for it? I think not. You build reputation on integrity and attitude.

When I went to my professional academy for financial planning in Atlanta, the company forks over 10g's to send you there. The first day you get there, you take a test on a huge binder they give you a week in advance. You don't get an 85%, your on the first flight home, without refund. Dress code=full dark suits and ties, all day from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. you don't comply, you're out and they don't care. That's why they are the best every year.

Sean_S · April 13th, 2006, 14:56

Well here is the way I look at it, I wouldn't wear a uniform for flight training nor would I choose ATP if the requirements stated I had to wear a uniform. I finished up the ATP program a few months back on my jet ride I talked with Phil about the whole uniform rumor, he told me that management didn’t want the uniforms but had no other choice. The only reasons for the uniforms are the tools that show up in t-shirts, cutoff shorts, beanies, and sandals. If people would have only showed common sense and dressed appropriately ATP wouldn’t be forcing everyone to wear a monkey suit. Just remember you’re the paying customer if you don’t want to wear a uniform speak with your money, call and let them know you don’t want to wear a uniform and see if they want to work something out if not DON’T sign up. It’s pretty simple you should be expected to dress in a certain manner but not have your attire dictated for you, if ATP wants to start paying people to attend then they have the right to pick out your attire.

BTW I loved the whole program…. But wouldn’t stand for wearing a uniform, I have a common sense level that allows me to dress myself in the proper attire for the situation

Sean_S · April 13th, 2006, 15:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember

Life's not all about money Haas...You think Harvard is going to take you just cause you can pay for it? I think not. You build reputation on integrity and attitude.

When I went to my professional academy for financial planning in Atlanta, the company forks over 10g's to send you there. The first day you get there, you take a test on a huge binder they give you a week in advance. You don't get an 85%, your on the first flight home, without refund. Dress code=full dark suits and ties, all day from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. you don't comply, you're out and they don't care. That's why they are the best every year.

Money makes the world go round... how much you wanna bet that if this uniform policy started hurting the bottom line it would be yanked?

Sure Harvard will take a moron with enough money... or better yet just make a large donation and get an honorary degree if Harvard won’t do it shop around….

Gizmo · September 16th, 2006, 10:48

Looks like the only ones required to wear uniforms are the instructors. I was at the HEF location and those instructors were wearing dark blue collared shirt with ATP embroidery and black slacks. Very sporty looking. It beats the hell out of white shirt, tie and epaulettes.

Excellent decision ATP! Like the new look.

CaptainChris87 · September 16th, 2006, 14:14

Were not getting uniforms, Im kind of happy we're not but then again its part of the 44,000.

SIUav8er · September 18th, 2006, 20:05

Quote:

Originally Posted by CaptainChris87

Were not getting uniforms, Im kind of happy we're not but then again its part of the 44,000.

whatever chris! you know you want a uniform, lol just admit it!

ryanmickG · September 18th, 2006, 20:29

Quote:

Originally Posted by SIUav8er

so youd kick out a customer that just forked over $44,000 to your company just cause they were unsure on how to dress? lol, thats funny

Stole my thunder. You cant compare a flight school with an Ivy league school. Im not sure if Harvard even has a dress code. If you dont want to wear the uni...then dont. You are the customer of their buisness. I will bet my yearly salary they wont kick you and your 50 large out. It is stupid to make someone drive around a seminole in the summer in a uniform.

ryanmickG · September 18th, 2006, 20:33

Quote:

Originally Posted by Goldmember

Life's not all about money Haas...You think Harvard is going to take you just cause you can pay for it? I think not. You build reputation on integrity and attitude.

wrong!!

In the flight school buisness, its all about the money! Without it integrity goes out the door along with everything thats not nailed down.

SpiraMirabilis · September 18th, 2006, 22:43

Of course there is no uniform at Harvard aside from not looking like a putz.

ryanmickG · September 18th, 2006, 23:40

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Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis

Of course there is no uniform at Harvard aside from not looking like a putz.

I dont know, a friend of mine went to Yale and he has always looked like a pot-smoking dead head. I know he didnt change that when he went their. Who knows?

April 11th, 2006, 12:25	#1
JBUCREW Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: DTW/DXR/JFK Posts: 216	ATP Uniform Policy I dont want to bring this up again, this has been beaten to death!.... but I am trying get this straight. I read on the ATP website under the 90 program that there is a uniform policy, I dont really give sh%$ either way if we do or dont have to wear them at this point, but when I call ATP to find out how I should be prepared for the first day I can't get a straight answer on what I need to bring if anything? ie. black/blue pants/shorts etc..... At this point I gonna show up for my first day in swim shorts and sandles anyway this is where I got this info on the website Uniform Policy Airlines recognize ATP as the leading provider of Regional Airline Pilots in the US. With the airlines’ increasing demand for pilots, ATP-trained pilots are getting hired within just months of starting training. A professional and uniform appearance reflects the standardization and discipline that the airlines consistently find in ATP pilots. ATP provides students airline-style uniform pants, shirts, and epaulettes. For the summer months, the uniform will allow for shorts. Each student will provide his or her own black shoes and black belt. A tie is not required. Students must appear in uniform at all times when at an ATP Training Center and when flying ATP aircraft.

April 11th, 2006, 16:00	#2
Goldmember Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Louisville, KY. Posts: 154	Looks like it states pretty clear there in the description that they provide you a uniform, and you are responsible for black shoes and a black belt. IF you're talking about arrival, dress the part man. Wear a button down collared shirt, slacks, dress shoes and belt. If I were running the place and you showed up in shorts and sandals, I'd send you home on the spot... __________________ What are we going to do tonight brain? --Same thing we do every night Pinky, try and take over the world.

April 11th, 2006, 17:29	#3
CRJDriver Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: CVG Posts: 1,063	Last thing I've heard was that the Uniforms haven't arrived, yet. __________________ Formerly UND_Flyer

April 11th, 2006, 18:21	#5
Goldmember Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Louisville, KY. Posts: 154	I know dude, that's why I would send you home, keep your banana hamock to yourself..now if you were the chic in UND's avatar...that's a different story! __________________ What are we going to do tonight brain? --Same thing we do every night Pinky, try and take over the world.

April 11th, 2006, 19:18	#6
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	Uniforms... what a shame. That should make for a comfy ride in the summer months. __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

April 11th, 2006, 17:53	#4
JBUCREW Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: DTW/DXR/JFK Posts: 216	UND thanks! Goldmember FYI-I was just kidding about the speedo and sandles! later

April 11th, 2006, 23:12	#8
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	This reminds me, back when I was looking for a place to get my private at, I actually decided against one school based just on the fact that the instructors were "required" to wear ties. It was about 90 degrees out when they were showing me this plane and I asked why everyone wears ties at the school. One of the CFIs rolled his eyes and said they had to. I was out of there right after that. __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

April 12th, 2006, 19:08	#9
Sodbuster Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Cleveland...... OH! Posts: 88	The uniforms have been expected to arrive "next week" since February. The instructors are the only ones actually wearing any kind of uniform. In fact, the students are more casually dressed than ever.

April 13th, 2006, 00:46	#11
Timbuff10 Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Coloradan in Orange County, CA Posts: 3,235	Yeah, that was the day they showed me the plane with 3 flat tires, and the cracked exhaust pipe. Also the day I met Andrew and he showed me a nice Cessna that could actually fly! __________________ My Photography My Airliners.net photos

April 13th, 2006, 12:44	#14
Goldmember Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Louisville, KY. Posts: 154	Life's not all about money Haas...You think Harvard is going to take you just cause you can pay for it? I think not. You build reputation on integrity and attitude. When I went to my professional academy for financial planning in Atlanta, the company forks over 10g's to send you there. The first day you get there, you take a test on a huge binder they give you a week in advance. You don't get an 85%, your on the first flight home, without refund. Dress code=full dark suits and ties, all day from 7 a.m. to 6 p.m. you don't comply, you're out and they don't care. That's why they are the best every year. __________________ What are we going to do tonight brain? --Same thing we do every night Pinky, try and take over the world.

April 13th, 2006, 14:56	#15
Sean_S Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2005 Posts: 241	Well here is the way I look at it, I wouldn't wear a uniform for flight training nor would I choose ATP if the requirements stated I had to wear a uniform. I finished up the ATP program a few months back on my jet ride I talked with Phil about the whole uniform rumor, he told me that management didn’t want the uniforms but had no other choice. The only reasons for the uniforms are the tools that show up in t-shirts, cutoff shorts, beanies, and sandals. If people would have only showed common sense and dressed appropriately ATP wouldn’t be forcing everyone to wear a monkey suit. Just remember you’re the paying customer if you don’t want to wear a uniform speak with your money, call and let them know you don’t want to wear a uniform and see if they want to work something out if not DON’T sign up. It’s pretty simple you should be expected to dress in a certain manner but not have your attire dictated for you, if ATP wants to start paying people to attend then they have the right to pick out your attire. BTW I loved the whole program…. But wouldn’t stand for wearing a uniform, I have a common sense level that allows me to dress myself in the proper attire for the situation

September 16th, 2006, 10:48	#17
Gizmo Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2002 Posts: 116	Re: ATP Uniform Policy Looks like the only ones required to wear uniforms are the instructors. I was at the HEF location and those instructors were wearing dark blue collared shirt with ATP embroidery and black slacks. Very sporty looking. It beats the hell out of white shirt, tie and epaulettes. Excellent decision ATP! Like the new look.

September 16th, 2006, 14:14	#18
CaptainChris87 Old Skool Join Date: May 2004 Location: O.C. Posts: 1,779	Re: ATP Uniform Policy Were not getting uniforms, Im kind of happy we're not but then again its part of the 44,000. __________________ -CP/MEL-IR;AGI -Former Airline Intern,Sightseeing tours pilot -A.A.:Trasnfer Studies. Cal-State Fullerton: Finance/Entrepreneurship -Sigma Phi Epsilon Fraternity.-Pledge/Sigma President

September 18th, 2006, 22:43	#22
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,453	Re: ATP Uniform Policy Of course there is no uniform at Harvard aside from not looking like a putz.

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