Riverside Location Questions

[ALPHA]

I'm looking forward to start my traning at riverside because is the closest to were i live, but I would an mine going somewhere else. Any 1 have any recomendations. I also wanted to know how is the area at riverside, how many students are enroll, how are the apartments, and what are the chances of getting hired after the program?

Thanks for any response.

[InlandFlyer]

I'm starting at the 10 month at RAL on monday, but I've been doing my time building there as well since last week. The instructor's there seem very nice and knowledgeable. I'm not actually staying at one of their apartments since I'm doing the 10 month, but the apartments they stay at, called Viewpoint, are very close to mine and they're not too bad. It's about a 15-20 min drive to the airport though. The area around the airport is more towards the "center" of Riverside where the area is a bit older. The apartments are located near the University so the area is more developed. I'm not too sure about how many student's are enrolled or what the chances are of getting hired. Good Luck!

[UND_Flyer]

Originally Posted by ALPHA

I'm looking forward to start my traning at riverside because is the closest to were i live, but I would an mine going somewhere else. Any 1 have any recomendations. I also wanted to know how is the area at riverside, how many students are enroll, how are the apartments, and what are the chances of getting hired after the program?

Thanks for any response.

If you don't mind going to another location, but would like to stay in California, I would recommend Sacramento. Great location and awesome instructors! I had fun flying in/out of Riverside on my X-Countries, but I don't think I would have liked doing all my training there. That's just me, though.

Originally Posted by IndianFlyer

I'm starting at the 10 month at RAL on monday, but I've been doing my time building there as well since last week. The instructor's there seem very nice and knowledgeable.

Who is your instructor? My old roommate, Derek, is instructing down there.

[InlandFlyer]

I've been doing my time-building with Jason, but I'm not sure who my instructor is going to be for the program. I was told it was going to be someone else.

[ALPHA]

Thanks for the tips and info i'll have them in mind.

[ETAV8R]

UND,
I have heard the SAC location is in a bad area. Any truth to this? I am hoping to do the ACPP at either Riverside or Sacramento. How come you prefer sac to riverside?

[UND_Flyer]

Originally Posted by eta71

UND,
I have heard the SAC location is in a bad area. Any truth to this? I am hoping to do the ACPP at either Riverside or Sacramento. How come you prefer sac to riverside?

I did the ACPP last summer. I actually interviewed for the program in Dallas over spring break, because that was the location I was going to do my training. Since I go to school in ND, Dallas was the closest location for the ACPP. In the end, it came down to either drive all the way from North Dakota down to Texas, or fly home (Idaho) and drive down to Sacramento. Well, I decided to go with Sacramento, and I am glad I did.

As far as Sacramento, I don't think it is a bad location. The apartments are pretty nice and about a 5-minute drive from the airport. I really enjoyed my training and flying in Northern California. The instructors there are pretty awesome and very knowledgeable. A lot of people say that SAC gets a lot of the old Seminole's and always has a lot of MX issues. While I was there, I never had any major MX issues, and SAC does get 2000 models, heck, I even did some training in a 2005 model up in SAC.

I did pass through Riverside quite a few times during my X-Country phase. I never considered doing my training there. If you think SAC is a bad place, you should go to Riverside. Someone tried to break into my flight partner's car at the airport while we were on a X-country out east. Personally, I like NorCal a lot better than SoCal.

Anyway, if you have any more questions, feel free to ask!

[ETAV8R]

Thanks for the reply. I live in socal and I would like to think that sacramento would be a nicer area. I am unfamiliar with sac though. I know I wouldn't want to live in the riverside area. No offense to those who live in the I.E. (inland empire). Sac and riverside are the two places I would like to train at. Riverside is a stronger draw due to proximity of my family.

[InlandFlyer]

Yea, honestly the only reason I'm in Riverside is because I attend the University here but other than that I probably wouldn't have been attending the Riverside location either. The location of the apartments that 90 day students and instructors stay at is not a bad area when put it in perspective with the rest of Riverside since its about 2 min away from campus. The location of the airport, however, is probably more what you're thinking in terms of Sac being a nicer place to be. The worst part of being in the Inland is the heat during the summer, but since that's pretty much over with, I think this area is going to be good for actual IFR during the winter time since it tends to rain a lot here. Well Good Luck deciding!

[UND_Flyer]

Again, I'm really glad I went to SAC. Executive Airport is pretty nice to fly in and out of. The practice area's are pretty close, and the NorCal Approach guys are a lot nicer than SoCal;-) Even if you don't choose to go to RAL, you'll be passing through there quite a few times if you end up going to SAC.

[musicmixer]

Both RAL and SAC airports are not in the best of areas. In my opinion the Riverside apartments are in a much better area than Sacramento and the apartments themselves are a bit more upscale. The drive is a good 20 min from the airport though.

[ETAV8R]

I wont be going anytime soon.
Just found out I was denied my loan app. Guess I am headed to the FBO for a while

[UND_Flyer]

Originally Posted by eta71

I wont be going anytime soon.
Just found out I was denied my loan app. Guess I am headed to the FBO for a while

What kind of loan did you apply for? Does KeyBank still have the aviation loan?

[ETAV8R]

Yep, I applied for the key loan with a cosigner. They have an agreement with atp for a limited time.

[LAX_Airport]

Well, I would prefer LGB (Long Beach) Airport over Riverside's. Why?
1) Riverside Airport is ugly...(Have you seen it?)
2) The facilities...? (Looks like I am in Poor Rural South Florida)
3) Just look at it for yourself and make your own decision.
4) Well, I guess I'd rather be there than Vero Beach, FL (Zero Beach!)
5) Try SAC...then make your own decision.

[blee256]

Originally Posted by LAX_Airport

Well, I would prefer LGB (Long Beach) Airport over Riverside's. Why?
1) Riverside Airport is ugly...(Have you seen it?)

what does the airport being ugly have to do with it?
- Its got a control tower, its not busy so you never have problems flying around the pattern.
- The practice area is very close, you actually get to the practice area before you get up to the required alt. for manuvers.
- Between chino (CNO), only about 9 miles west, and RAL you have all the instrument approaches you could want.
- KONT is even closer to do your towered night landings.
- The airspace is busy as heck so you get good exposure talking on the radio.
-They have 2 sims (1 AST-300 and 1 new Frasca)

2) The facilities...? (Looks like I am in Poor Rural South Florida)

-Riverside has the roomiest office in the whole ATP network.
-and its probably on off the cleanest........
-It has an MX base, with mechanics that are totally cool that will help you out as much as they can.

3) Just look at it for yourself and make your own decision.

I dont get how this is one of your reasons

4) Well, I guess I'd rather be there than Vero Beach, FL (Zero Beach!)

what??!! what does vero beach have to do with this. Does ATP even have an office there? Trust me there is a lot more places to be rather than the city of Riverside, not just vero beach. The IE as a whole kinda sucks. but for ATP fligt training I think Riverside is a great location. and what do you have against the sunshine state? this is your second irrelevant reference to Florida.

5) Try SAC...then make your own decision.

huh?

[ETAV8R]

Originally Posted by LAX_Airport

Well, I would prefer LGB (Long Beach) Airport over Riverside's. Why?
1) Riverside Airport is ugly...(Have you seen it?)
2) The facilities...? (Looks like I am in Poor Rural South Florida)
3) Just look at it for yourself and make your own decision.
4) Well, I guess I'd rather be there than Vero Beach, FL (Zero Beach!)
5) Try SAC...then make your own decision.

Umm, OK
I have been to many flight schools from the local FBO, to Sierra and Flight Safety, to the Riverside location of ATP.
I may not be going there soon but given the ability I would do so. The main reason being to stay local. Yes long beach is nice, have you been to the micro office where ATP resides?
Blee256 has shown why someone would want to go to Riverside.
Differences in opinion to some degree.
Don't judge a book by its cover as the old adage goes.

[AlWaYs HiGh]

Man LAX_Airport are you some kind of pansie?? I mean come on your there to do flight training, its not a hawaiian vacation...what do you want marble floors and an ocean view?? Riverside airport is a great airport to train at for all the reason mentioned above. As well as lots of places to eat around the airport for when your training there. I mean who cares what the airport looks like, as long as it has an open runway and some taxiways i'm happy to fly to any airport. And again ATP riv has to have one of the biggest offices atp has, and yea the maintence guys are all really cool. In my opinion the sac location is in the most dirty and ugly part of sacramento, so don't just bag on riv...

[SIUav8er]

Originally Posted by LAX_Airport

Well, I would prefer LGB (Long Beach) Airport over Riverside's. Why?
1) Riverside Airport is ugly...(Have you seen it?)
2) The facilities...? (Looks like I am in Poor Rural South Florida)
3) Just look at it for yourself and make your own decision.
4) Well, I guess I'd rather be there than Vero Beach, FL (Zero Beach!)
5) Try SAC...then make your own decision.

Yeah, RAL isnt the pretiest location ever, but who cares? Also, LGB doesnt do the 90 day ACPP.

[UND_Flyer]

Originally Posted by AlWaYs HiGh

In my opinion the sac location is in the most dirty and ugly part of sacramento, so don't just bag on riv...

I dunno about that, I think SAC is a pretty nice location. The airport is a great place to learn to fly. I admit, the SAC office is crap compared to RAL.

[scoobs]

Can someone tell me whats wrong with Riverside? An hour to the beach,45 minutes to the desert and a couple of hours to Vegas. And thats not including the flying.

[CaptainChris87]

Just wondering does the Riverside or Long beach ATP get any of the 172's. Da's, and citations?

[SIUav8er]

Hey Chris! I dont think RAL or LGB gets the Citations or DA's. Only the 172s and seminoles. I think the Citations are only in JAX.

[UND_Flyer]

Most of the 90-Day locations, if not all have at least one C-172. Riverside has one, since it is a 90-Day location. I don't think LGB has any, unless someone is flying a X-country there or something. As far as the Citations go, they are usually all over the USA, but mostly on the east coast. They do come out to the West Coast once is a while, but it's rare. I did my Citation flight in Dallas, and I know some people that did it in Phoenix, Las Vegas and Seattle.

[Matt777]

Originally Posted by UND_Flyer

As far as Sacramento, I don't think it is a bad location. The apartments are pretty nice and about a 5-minute drive from the airport. I really enjoyed my training and flying in Northern California. The instructors there are pretty awesome and very knowledgeable. A lot of people say that SAC gets a lot of the old Seminole's and always has a lot of MX issues. While I was there, I never had any major MX issues, and SAC does get 2000 models, heck, I even did some training in a 2005 model up in SAC.

Yep, I am one of those people! When I did my Multi in mid October I posted here about the plane that broke on me and mentioned that they only had 2 '79s. HOWEVER, things have been VERY different for the last few weeks- so I guess that wasn't the common situation.

A week ago we had SIX Seminoles, plus the 172 which is always here. 2 of them were 2000s and one is a 2005- 572AT which is a great airplane that also holds altitude really well. I did my instrument checkride in it today.
Flying it makes me want to get a Seneca someday!

Right now I think we are down to 4 Seminoles, but that is still a lot.

The immediate area where the apartments are seems nice enough, but the parking lot is gated and all the apartment lots around there are so there is probably a good reason for that! When you drive southeast on Florin Rd for about 7 minutes and go past I-5 that is when it starts to become not as nice.

My instructor told me that his instructor was attacked in his ATP apartment, duct taped, and had his car stolen about a year and a half ago! In these same apartments I am staying in. It doesn't seem like that bad of an area to me, but the bad area is only about 8 minutes away.

The 5 to 7 minute drive to the airport is great!