American Eagle / ATP prep?

[BoDEAN]

Going to be interviewing with AE soon, and notice there is a 100 question test in the interview on ATP info. I purchased the gleim book, and just cracked it open. Curious how people prepare for the ATP knowledge test? Any experiences from those who have used either the Gleim or ASA prepware?

[dingo222]

I have a bud that just interviewed there about 3 weeks ago. He said there were no performance or w/b questions on the test. It sounds like you can skip those and just hit the rest. I used the asa test prep on cd for my atp, but it was a pain in the butt finding motivation trying to study it every night. PAy the 250 and go do the atp test prep and test at ATP. SOmehow they get away with using a test bank of 650 or so questions, instead of the normal 1300 or so.

[bob loblaw]

ATP only uses the questions relative to airplanes. They remove the questions for helicopters and such which leaves about 650 to 700 questions. they sit you in a room infront of a computer with only those questions. At the end of 8 hours you take the written.

[Tram]

A buddy of mine just got "conditional" hire there yesterday, I can ask him what was on it..

A website to help with the ATP stuff is http://www.sheffield.com/html%20file...atestprep.html

I have been using it and it has helped a tremendous amount.. If you can run through that and do well, you should be fine on the test, as you will have all the basis covered..

I have also been using the ATP Written test prep and it has helped a great deal..

[Joepilot]

Pay the $297. Best money I have ever spent. I have been trying to study my gleim book for a year and a half. I think I made it 6 chapters. Even the highlighter has faded. Brushed up on the regs, then went and did the 8 hour cram at ATP. Scored an 84%. Thank god it's over with.

[BoDEAN]

Interesting observations. My question is, will you actually learn anything from the day course at ATP?

[bob loblaw]

Originally Posted by BoDEAN

Interesting observations. My question is, will you actually learn anything from the day course at ATP?

It depends on wheter you try to learn using the prep or you just memorize the correct answers using the prep.

[zmiller4]

I own the ASA prepware and have extensively used the Gleim software that our flight school has. I thought the Gleim was much better overall--I think they divide up the subject areas a little more clearly. I used both for my American Eagle interview, though, and you can ignore any sections with figures. Everyone at the interview gets a different test, but I'm guessing they were all pretty similar--121 regulations, weather, aerodynamics, instrument procedures and facilities, etc.

I think the software should be adequate for the tests given at interviews. Most seem pretty simple, with rote memorization 121 regs or simple aerodynamics. With the gleim software it's super easy to set up a 50 question test taken from the subject areas you know will be on there and see what you're scoring on them.

Check out www.aviationinterviews.com for good gouge on Eagle.

[BoDEAN]

I've read the gouges. Interview is first week of December. Anyone who recently had an interview, please chime in.

[Polarbear]

I don't know how it is for the ATP, but I used ASA to study for my pre-test for the A&P General at school and scored a 94%. If it is the questions you want to know and memorize ASA is a great program. It allows you to go question to question and explains why you missed the question. The books do not work well for me because I am too tempted to cheat and look at the answers for the upcomming questions without looking at the actual questions.

[liebhabe]

Originally Posted by BoDEAN

I've read the gouges. Interview is first week of December. Anyone who recently had an interview, please chime in.

Interviewed last week. Be sharp, the ATP test draws from almost everything without a figure. Don't worry about pallet loading or anything like that either. HR is fairly laid back. Tech isn't bad if you are up on Jeps. Know the Jeps inside and out, front and back. 121 time limitations (8/30/100/1000), 121 when do you need an alternate? t/o alternate? and a few situational questions.

The #1 thing to eagle is really a good attitude and PAPERWORK! Do not go in without the whole stack of paperwork ready to go. Follow all directions on everything they give you. Have copies, copies, and more copies. Bring all your originals. The first item of the day is collection of logbooks and paperwork copies and originals. Turn them in exactly as specified.

That's about it. 6 of us started 2 of us finished. Once you get to the sim just try to relax and fly the airplane. Use the instructor in the right seat, he knows what he is doing and WILL help you. You already know how to enter a hold and fly an ILS so it's nothing new.

After that, starve yourself for 12 hours and enjoy the physical.

[Dev]

I took the Eagle interview in Sept- just as others are saying, there are no refer to questions, which made the atp test much simpler. 50 Questions on aerodynamics, weather, systems, etc. I prepared by studying the gleim and I also took the ATP 1 day course. Personally I don't like the course because it involves memorization of answers instead of really understanding them. If you take the ATP written $295 course, a lot of the stuff you learn that day will probably be forgetten pretty quickly.
I recomend that you score as high as you can on the Eagle written, even though they say 80% is minimum score. I got the impression that they really prefer to see at least 90+. The written is no sweat at all if you are prepared. Good luck.