Flying the Citation

Guidetothesky · October 21st, 2004, 21:44

Could anybody tell me what it's like to fly the Citation? Where do you fly to? Do you actually get to land?

AdrockAviator · October 22nd, 2004, 01:22

Flying the Citation was enjoyable and will always be remembered. You get to do practically everything.......takeoff, land, shoot approaches, emergency descents, etc.... Its just an introduction to turbine aircraft. The program includes 3 hours in the Citation and you will receive your high-performance and high-altitude endorsements.

nkoenig · October 22nd, 2004, 07:50

I know its obvious what it is but what can you do with a high altitude endorsement ? does it help in landing a job? I just started my PPL and am learning everything i can..

Guidetothesky · October 23rd, 2004, 15:08

That sounds great about the CJ. What type of equipment does it have up front? Does it have EFIS?

I_Money · October 24th, 2004, 21:29

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Do you actually get to land?

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Citations do not fly forever.

Guidetothesky · October 25th, 2004, 19:55

That's not what I meant, but was a clever way of looking at it. I think it is a great part of the program. I look forward to it.

junior · October 26th, 2004, 10:50

The citation ride was a blast. it was a little taste of what we are all working towards. I had never even sat in the front seat of a jet before so it was quite an experience. I took off with the owner of ATP in the left seat and half way through he switched with the citation pilot. we flew from JAX to Meridian Mississippi. Climbed up to FL310 and got a great view of the sunset. The whole citation thing is more of a thank you for attending the program cause it does cost quite a bit to operate that thing. it's a fun ride and that is all it is meant to be. have fun.

Tram · November 20th, 2004, 02:34

Flying the citation was a blast.. much easier to land than the seminole..

AngelFuree · November 29th, 2004, 11:25

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Do you actually get to land?

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Citations do not fly forever.

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That was a worthless comment.

JEP · November 29th, 2004, 13:19

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Do you actually get to land?

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Citations do not fly forever.

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That was a worthless comment.

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Kind of like......

"That was a worthless comment."

AngelFuree · November 29th, 2004, 15:05

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Do you actually get to land?

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Citations do not fly forever.

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That was a worthless comment.

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Kind of like......

"That was a worthless comment."

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Sucking up to others?

Foxcow · November 29th, 2004, 16:14

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I know its obvious what it is but what can you do with a high altitude endorsement ? does it help in landing a job? I just started my PPL and am learning everything i can..

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its required for any aircraft that has a max operating altitude or service ceiling above 25,000ft

viper548 · November 29th, 2004, 17:30

[ QUOTE ]
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I know its obvious what it is but what can you do with a high altitude endorsement ? does it help in landing a job? I just started my PPL and am learning everything i can..

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its required for any aircraft that has a max operating altitude or service ceiling above 25,000ft

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And once you get a job in a plane that will fly that high the high altitude training will be included in the SIC or PIC check.

Guidetothesky · December 16th, 2004, 22:41

I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas...

HorizonCRJ · December 27th, 2004, 00:32

God speed Reggie White and those lost in the tsunami.

Guidetothesky · January 4th, 2005, 22:06

Does anybody have pictures flying the Citation?

junior · January 5th, 2005, 20:03

they have video of the citation ride on their website.

dsyborn2fly · February 5th, 2005, 16:32

The flight I took went from Dallas to Las Vegas. I flew with Jim K, the VP and Derrick, the owner, was in the back watching. He taxiied, my airplane, I set take off power, N1, Vr, rotate, positive rate gear up, V2, climb speed set. Did alot of vectoring with the auto pilot. Stepped up to 10,000', 24,000', then settled in at 28,000'. Talked briefly about systems, donned the O2 maskes, emergency descent, descent planning.We did a visual approach, which was interesting 1500' AGL, turn base, then final. Didn't flare, landed smooth, he put it to idle and thrust reversers deployed, and he taxiied. It is a chance for the higher powers of the company to check up on the training, and look for potential new instructors for ATP. Derrick and Jim both asked about there instructors and what they thought could be improved. Most students are then taken out for lunch or dinner, not burgers and dogs, nice restaurants, mostly their favorites, but on our trip there was business that needed to be attended to, so Derrick apologized, which was unnecessary, handed us a $100.00. Set us up in an apartment for the night, and thanked us for our input. It was a blast.

simscott · February 16th, 2005, 12:08

Sweeet!

October 21st, 2004, 21:44	#1
Guidetothesky Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 38	Flying the Citation Could anybody tell me what it's like to fly the Citation? Where do you fly to? Do you actually get to land?

October 22nd, 2004, 01:22	#2
AdrockAviator Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Dallas, Texas Posts: 76	Re: Flying the Citation Flying the Citation was enjoyable and will always be remembered. You get to do practically everything.......takeoff, land, shoot approaches, emergency descents, etc.... Its just an introduction to turbine aircraft. The program includes 3 hours in the Citation and you will receive your high-performance and high-altitude endorsements.

October 22nd, 2004, 07:50	#3
nkoenig Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2004 Location: Houston, Tx Posts: 428	Re: Flying the Citation I know its obvious what it is but what can you do with a high altitude endorsement ? does it help in landing a job? I just started my PPL and am learning everything i can..

October 23rd, 2004, 15:08	#4
Guidetothesky Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 38	Re: Flying the Citation That sounds great about the CJ. What type of equipment does it have up front? Does it have EFIS?

October 24th, 2004, 21:29	#5
I_Money Moderator Join Date: Jul 2000 Location: Socal Posts: 5,650	Re: Flying the Citation [ QUOTE ] Do you actually get to land? [/ QUOTE ] Citations do not fly forever.

October 25th, 2004, 19:55	#6
Guidetothesky Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 38	Re: Flying the Citation That's not what I meant, but was a clever way of looking at it. I think it is a great part of the program. I look forward to it.

October 26th, 2004, 10:50	#7
junior Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CO Posts: 427	Re: Flying the Citation The citation ride was a blast. it was a little taste of what we are all working towards. I had never even sat in the front seat of a jet before so it was quite an experience. I took off with the owner of ATP in the left seat and half way through he switched with the citation pilot. we flew from JAX to Meridian Mississippi. Climbed up to FL310 and got a great view of the sunset. The whole citation thing is more of a thank you for attending the program cause it does cost quite a bit to operate that thing. it's a fun ride and that is all it is meant to be. have fun.

November 20th, 2004, 02:34	#8
Tram Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: KMSL Posts: 1,842	Re: Flying the Citation Flying the citation was a blast.. much easier to land than the seminole..

November 29th, 2004, 11:25	#9
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,133	Re: Flying the Citation [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do you actually get to land? [/ QUOTE ] Citations do not fly forever. [/ QUOTE ] That was a worthless comment.

November 29th, 2004, 13:19	#10
JEP Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Eden Prairie, MN (KFCM) (KMSP) Posts: 10,727 Blog Entries: 1	Re: Flying the Citation [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do you actually get to land? [/ QUOTE ] Citations do not fly forever. [/ QUOTE ] That was a worthless comment. [/ QUOTE ] Kind of like...... "That was a worthless comment."

November 29th, 2004, 15:05	#11
AngelFuree Old Skool Join Date: Mar 2004 Location: G-Forks, ND/ NYC Posts: 3,133	Re: Flying the Citation [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] Do you actually get to land? [/ QUOTE ] Citations do not fly forever. [/ QUOTE ] That was a worthless comment. [/ QUOTE ] Kind of like...... "That was a worthless comment." [/ QUOTE ] Sucking up to others?

November 29th, 2004, 16:14	#12
Foxcow Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,053	Re: Flying the Citation [ QUOTE ] I know its obvious what it is but what can you do with a high altitude endorsement ? does it help in landing a job? I just started my PPL and am learning everything i can.. [/ QUOTE ] its required for any aircraft that has a max operating altitude or service ceiling above 25,000ft

November 29th, 2004, 17:30	#13
viper548 Senior Member Join Date: May 2003 Location: Colorado Springs Posts: 814	Re: Flying the Citation [ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] I know its obvious what it is but what can you do with a high altitude endorsement ? does it help in landing a job? I just started my PPL and am learning everything i can.. [/ QUOTE ] its required for any aircraft that has a max operating altitude or service ceiling above 25,000ft [/ QUOTE ] And once you get a job in a plane that will fly that high the high altitude training will be included in the SIC or PIC check.

December 16th, 2004, 22:41	#14
Guidetothesky Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 38	Re: Flying the Citation I want to wish everyone a Merry Christmas...

December 27th, 2004, 00:32	#15
HorizonCRJ Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Troutdale, Ore. TTD Posts: 99	Re: Flying the Citation God speed Reggie White and those lost in the tsunami.

January 4th, 2005, 22:06	#16
Guidetothesky Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 38	Re: Flying the Citation Does anybody have pictures flying the Citation?

January 5th, 2005, 20:03	#17
junior Senior Member Join Date: May 2002 Location: CO Posts: 427	Re: Flying the Citation they have video of the citation ride on their website.

February 5th, 2005, 16:32	#18
dsyborn2fly Newbie Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 12	Re: Flying the Citation The flight I took went from Dallas to Las Vegas. I flew with Jim K, the VP and Derrick, the owner, was in the back watching. He taxiied, my airplane, I set take off power, N1, Vr, rotate, positive rate gear up, V2, climb speed set. Did alot of vectoring with the auto pilot. Stepped up to 10,000', 24,000', then settled in at 28,000'. Talked briefly about systems, donned the O2 maskes, emergency descent, descent planning.We did a visual approach, which was interesting 1500' AGL, turn base, then final. Didn't flare, landed smooth, he put it to idle and thrust reversers deployed, and he taxiied. It is a chance for the higher powers of the company to check up on the training, and look for potential new instructors for ATP. Derrick and Jim both asked about there instructors and what they thought could be improved. Most students are then taken out for lunch or dinner, not burgers and dogs, nice restaurants, mostly their favorites, but on our trip there was business that needed to be attended to, so Derrick apologized, which was unnecessary, handed us a $100.00. Set us up in an apartment for the night, and thanked us for our input. It was a blast.

February 16th, 2005, 12:08	#19
simscott Newbie Join Date: Aug 2001 Posts: 16	Re: Flying the Citation Sweeet!

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