TSA Recalls!!!!!!!

[surreal1221]

Originally Posted by SurferLucas

Hahaha...atleast ASA wants to get more flying.

The wonderful people with the Alaska Air Group running the show for Horizon, we're probably not going to recall till 2012.

HOPEFULLY, I won't have to make decision to go back or not...if that time rolls around and the gf hasn't put "forums.jetcareers.com" into some sort of NetNanny and I decide to go back...I want someone to come to ATL and put me out of my misery, I'll supply the bullet and gun...

I'll do it. Only a short drive.

Originally Posted by Avalon781ML

PSA?! Did I miss something here folks? I know they brought a few back but are there more recalls?!

PSA's recall train is a very slow moving one (think steam engine), compared to TSA which is a bullet train and Eagle's which is your standard Amtrak variant.

[falconvalley]

Congrats TSA folks!

[DavCo]

Well, I certainly don't blame you for WANTING to go, but you should crunch the numbers, and also look at where you are seniority wise at each place. If I don't see you around Lakes anymore, I'll hope you are in a better place. MEOW!

[Trip7]

Congrats TSA folks. 130+ recalls is alot of pilots. Must be something Mesa-UA termination or RFP related. I'm sure we'll here an announcement soon.

[skinswin34]

someone remind me what RFP is would ya?

[Clocks]

Originally Posted by skinswin34

someone remind me what RFP is would ya?

request for proposal

[John_Frusciante]

Any idea how long the classes would be? A birdie told me the ground portion would be a week and 4 sim sessions.

Being out of the airplane for 14 months and only 2 weeks of training? Za?

[Socal321]

The shorter the better, the objective is to stay as little as possible in St Louis!!!!. As long as they give us the memory items before as well as the limitations/flows it would be fine. I dusted off my ERJ stuff this weekend I couldn't believe how much of the stuff I remembered. As long as they give us 2 or 3 weeks time before class I think it would be fine.

[SpiraMirabilis]

Originally Posted by John_Frusciante

Any idea how long the classes would be? A birdie told me the ground portion would be a week and 4 sim sessions.

Being out of the airplane for 14 months and only 2 weeks of training? Za?

If you're gone for over 12 months you have to go through requal C, which is entire course over again IFRC.

[meyers9163]

Believe it or not, this stuff comes back really FAST. Sounds like you will be fine with what the company has given you!

[Clocks]

So any word yet on what these recalls are about? Strange to recall with no announcement was my first thought.

Originally Posted by meyers9163

Believe it or not, this stuff comes back really FAST. Sounds like you will be fine with what the company has given you!

Along the lines of meyer's comments, do we need to maintain anything (besides a medical) during furlough? Can we just show up without an actual IPC or BFR, complete training and be legal?

[jynxyjoe]

Originally Posted by Clocks

\ Can we just show up without an actual IPC or BFR, complete training and be legal?

Yeah I'd think so. I'd say all you need is a couple hours in the sim and you would be golden after that.

[surreal1221]

>12 months out, it's a full requal from BI through IOE again.

[falconvalley]

I'm too lazy to type out the FAA's url. Is this full requal part of a reg? Knowing that as a certainty would help me for planning purposes. I'm pretty sure a recall for me is going to be happening within a few months or less.

[Copperhed51]

From what I understand, if you were out more than a year, you'd be going through a somewhat condensed version of initial new hire training followed by around 5 sim sessions and IOE. 48722, 48501, 42549, 39462...Heard them once recently and they're still stuck up in the noggin somewhere. It'll all come back.

[falconvalley]

I had to remember that AND 50044 49823 43651 40564 46495 46275 41226 37698 46738 46517 41226 37698 44312 44092 40785 35274. Good ole Cheezytaco.

[hotice]

Congrats to all who go back.

[Socal321]

Originally Posted by Copperhed51

From what I understand, if you were out more than a year, you'd be going through a somewhat condensed version of initial new hire training followed by around 5 sim sessions and IOE. 48722, 48501, 42549, 39462...Heard them once recently and they're still stuck up in the noggin somewhere. It'll all come back.

RZ said if you completed the 100 hours of flight time before you were furloughed, the training will be condensed. Otherwise it's full.

[Socal321]

More than a week now past the recall letters, more than 7 days now past our limit to respond to the recall, why am I not surprised with this company? The least they could do is update us.

[surreal1221]

Very interesting.

[Copperhed51]

Was just told by a union rep that TSA did not get the flying. As you were everybody.

[surreal1221]

What flying?

[Copperhed51]

From: Rick Leach
Date: November 13, 2009
RE: United RFP
We were notified today that we were unsuccessful in our effort to secure flying under the recent United Airlines
RFP. This disappointing outcome was despite providing United a low cost, highly competitive bid. The costs
required by United as well as some of the flexibility on the length of the agreement would have provided
substantial risk to Trans States. As I have said many times in the past, we are looking for opportunities to grow,
but only where such growth would be beneficial to the company. In this case, we could not agree to the terms
United required and realize sufficient levels of value to our company.
United did say that we offered a very competitive proposal which allowed us to be one of the final two out of
nine initial bidders for this RFP. They also indicated that our high quality service and our low costs , coupled with
the value we continue to bring to the partnership, make this a very difficult decision. They reconfirmed their
commitment to our partnership and the value we continue to bring them now and in the years to come, both on
our current flying as well as any future opportunities which may arise.
Unfortunately, this decision will result in us rescinding the recent furlough recall we initiated last week. We regret
that we will be unable to follow-through with our recalls at this time. Because of the delivery schedule required
by United and the notification requirements of our ALPA agreement, we had no choice but to send the recall
notices while still waiting for final word from United. If we could have waited until final word was given before
issuing the recalls, we would have. Unfortunately, timing did not allow that to be our course of action. We notified
ALPA leadership of our intent from the very beginning of the recall process and thank them for their cooperation
and understanding during this time. We sincerely apologize for any disruption this may have caused to our
furloughed pilots.
I know this is a major disappointment to many of our employees and again I am disappointed we were unable to
bring this process to a winning conclusion. Please rest assured we will continue to work towards finding ways to
profitably grow Trans States Airlines as well as return our furloughed pilots to work as soon as possible.
Thank you for your continued support and I will keep you posted on further opportunities as they develop.

[CRJDriver]

Wow... Recalls one day and revoked a week later.

[surreal1221]

Oh