Skywest to fly for Airtran

[gtpilot]

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/SkyWes....html?x=0&.v=1

Wow, just wow!

[Monty]

http://pressroom.airtran.com/phoenix...983&highlight=



Interesting agreement. Sounds more like a branded operation to me.

[Monty]

Ha! I think we posted at the same time on that one.

[MQAAord]

Threads merged.

[gtpilot]

Originally Posted by Monty

Ha! I think we posted at the same time on that one.

I just barely scooped ya!

[cencal83406]

So it's not a true regional feed. It's more like the "alliance" thing or "code share".... passengers will know they're getting on Skywest (not "AirTran operated by Skywest")....

or at least that's how I read it.

[kellwolf]

Didn't ACA fly for AirTran back in the day?

[CRJDriver]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Didn't ACA fly for AirTran back in the day?

AWAC did. Didn't last very long as far as I remember....

This will be different. From the press release...

Seats on these flights will be sold in conjunction with AirTran Airways flights with revenue shared on a pro-rated basis.

SkyWest Airlines will operate five SkyWest branded, 50-seat, Bombardier CRJ200 regional aircraft to and from Milwaukee.

[jynxyjoe]

Anyone else feel like Skywest and Republic are about to have a banner year.

[Firebird2XC]

Cue Todd in 5.....4.....3.....2.....1...

[kellwolf]

Sounds like a creative way to use those -200s that were doing the Midwest flying. I have to say, good move my Skywest management.

[OldTownPilot]

How long ago did the MKE base close from the Midwest fling that they did?

[jynxyjoe]

Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

How long ago did the MKE base close from the Midwest fling that they did?

I thought they did close it already.

[OldTownPilot]

Yeah thats what I figured. Thats a lot of displacement and then new base moving expenses. A bunch of FAs probably just quit rather than go to ORD, granted given the economy, most probably just went to ORD.

[jynxyjoe]

Originally Posted by OldTownPilot

Yeah thats what I figured. Thats a lot of displacement and then new base moving expenses. A bunch of FAs probably just quit rather than go to ORD, granted given the economy, most probably just went to ORD.

A buddy's girlfriend is an FO in ORD now, was MKE. I believe she said it was because of the base closing. Honestly though, I didn't listen a whole hell of a lot.

[wheelsup]

Originally Posted by jynxyjoe

Anyone else feel like Skywest and Republic are about to have a banner year.

I think they are doing it out of desperation. Personally. They have leases to pay on the jets and this is just a way to do that.

Republic did the same, look at the HI operation as well as buying up Frontier and Midwest. As did Mesa and Expressjet, and ACA. Branded operations really don't do so well especially with RJ's.

If anyone can do it however, Skywest can. They have a good product and a great leadership team.

[Baronman]

Skywest has planes and having the planes operate "at risk" will still bring in some money...At worst Skywest loses some money, at best they make some but at least they don't have airplanes sitting around which they have to make lease payments on.

I think it's the best deal for AirTran....Airtran comes out on top.

Not great for Midwest...Just steeper competition and more seats in an already over-served market.

[E_Dawg]

I seriously wonder if it's possible at all now that we've seen a great group like ExpressJet have a go at it and STILL fall short. To me it seems Skywest will lose less $$ flying these things for Air Tran, than they would if the ex-Midwest planes were just parked somewhere collecting desert dust.

[jynxyjoe]

Originally Posted by Baronman

Skywest has planes and having the planes operate "at risk" will still bring in some money...At worst Skywest loses some money, at best they make some but at least they don't have airplanes sitting around which they have to make lease payments on.

If the planes are sitting around the company isn't paying for the gas being burned, per diem for the pilots, paying the luggage guy to drive the missconnect bags, meal vouchers for late flights, MX for use.

I just remember the at risk stuff falling apart at Colgan is all.

[joliet]

Way to go Airtran

the 717 isn't much bigger than a CRJ

go go go air tran


bye bye mainline jobs

[Socal321]

Originally Posted by wheelsup

I think they are doing it out of desperation. Personally. They have leases to pay on the jets and this is just a way to do that.

Republic did the same, look at the HI operation as well as buying up Frontier and Midwest. As did Mesa and Expressjet, and ACA. Branded operations really don't do so well especially with RJ's.

If anyone can do it however, Skywest can. They have a good product and a great leadership team.

Yes there's nothing special about this other than Skywest has enough cash to keep it going. Let's all hope this thing fails. It sets a bad precedent and mainline code shares with regionals is a very dangerous thing for scope. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a code share.

[stuckingfk]

Originally Posted by Socal321

Yes there's nothing special about this other than Skywest has enough cash to keep it going. Let's all hope this thing fails. It sets a bad precedent and mainline code shares with regionals is a very dangerous thing for scope. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a code share.

Or if you want to look at the positives for AirTran.

They create a market with a smaller plane at less risk to their bottom line. They create more demand for their product and maybe send Midwest to the crapper. People of this board seem to think that if you can fly an RJ into an airport that means you can somehow fill a 737, 717, 320, etc.

If these flights work, eventually they'll be able to send 717's on these routes.

Has anyone taken business classes here?

[Baronman]

Originally Posted by jynxyjoe

If the planes are sitting around the company isn't paying for the gas being burned, per diem for the pilots, paying the luggage guy to drive the missconnect bags, meal vouchers for late flights, MX for use.

I just remember the at risk stuff falling apart at Colgan is all.

True....I guess if they're somewhat successful it's not too bad, but if it's the planes are empty and or low yields then they burn a lot of money.

[falconvalley]

Originally Posted by Socal321

Yes there's nothing special about this other than Skywest has enough cash to keep it going. Let's all hope this thing fails. It sets a bad precedent and mainline code shares with regionals is a very dangerous thing for scope. It wouldn't be so bad if it wasn't a code share.

Just wait! In about 30 years it'll probably be almost all "regional" flying here in the US. Sad thing is we can't stop that. We don't run the companies. Good thing is we can have some control over how much we make doing it. One of the reasons it's becoming this way might be our low cost, but it doesn't mean we'll stay that way.

[Socal321]

Originally Posted by stuckingfk

Or if you want to look at the positives for AirTran.

They create a market with a smaller plane at less risk to their bottom line. They create more demand for their product and maybe send Midwest to the crapper. People of this board seem to think that if you can fly an RJ into an airport that means you can somehow fill a 737, 717, 320, etc.

If these flights work, eventually they'll be able to send 717's on these routes.

Has anyone taken business classes here?

They already have 717s on some of these routes like STL.