Colgan/Pinnacle Seniority List Merger Question

[BobDDuck]

Originally Posted by PCL_128

The arbitrator has already ruled that PCL Corp. is in violation of the scope clause, but the ruling on the remedy was ambiguous, so ALPA is looking for a clarification from the arbitrator.

Umm... No?

In his preliminary finding he said that, but in the final issuance he said the PNCL Holdings was not governed by the contract between 9EALPA and PNCL Airlines.

Or at least that's what I thought.

[ATN_Pilot]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Umm... No?

In his preliminary finding he said that, but in the final issuance he said the PNCL Holdings was not governed by the contract between 9EALPA and PNCL Airlines.

Or at least that's what I thought.

The ruling is very conflicting. The latest ruling said that: 1. Pinnacle Airlines is in violation of the scope clause 2. Pinnacle Corp is operating as an "alter-ego" of Pinnacle Airlines, and 3: Pinnacle Corp is not required to bring itself in compliance with the scope clause, despite the violation

Basically it says that Pinnacle Corp is the same thing as Pinnacle Airlines, but that they don't have to comply with his own interpretation of the scope clause. The problem here is that the arbitrator doesn't seem to be quite sure whether he has jurisdiction of Pinnacle Corp. He knows they're in violation, but he doesn't seem to know whether he can force them to comply. Very strange situation. That's why ALPA is seeking a clarification to see exactly what all of this means.

[Seggy]

Originally Posted by CAPIP1998

It would be one thing if we knew for a fact that a list merger was going to happen, or not.

No one knows what is going to happen. No one.

But look at the signs leading to it. Three years ago my paychecks came from an address in Manassas. Now they come from one in Memphis. The company is going to do what is cheapest for them.

[USMC-SSGT]

on a side note:

Why is Colgan selling dave matthews band tickets on colgan air crew?

[Seggy]

Look carefully, they are not selling them, they are DMB ticket requests...

Story time:

When Dave was starting out in CHOville they needed some cheap transportation. It so happened that Colgan provided nonstop service from CHOville to NYC which would increase exposure for DMB. I am going to note that the service was of course on a 19hondo.

Anywho, the band and the Colgan family made a deal. Colgan would provide free service for the band and if they made it big, Colgan would get free tickets for life for all employees. Mind you this was 15 years ago.

So the Beech19hondo and Colgan helped 'make' DMB into what they are today.

[surreal1221]

How indie!

[kellwolf]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

Umm... No?

In his preliminary finding he said that, but in the final issuance he said the PNCL Holdings was not governed by the contract between 9EALPA and PNCL Airlines.

Or at least that's what I thought.

Ditto what PCL said. It was VERY confusing when the amended arbitration award came out, and the MEC was seeking clarification. That got put on the back burner when contract negotiations suddenly surged forward since any scope clause negotiated with a new contract would null and void the arbitrator's ruling anyway. Now that negotiations have stalled out again, I'd expect them to turn the heat back up on getting this clarified. Basically, the arbitrator said "You're in violation, but you don't have to do anything about it" which makes no sense.