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| Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: People's Republic of Boulder
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First off... welcome to JC! You are going to get a lot of varied responses to this question depending on what each person flies, where they are in seniority, which company, staffing, which segment (fractional, airline, cargo) and how their company is doing. It can vary from 8-20 days off a month! Me? Currently a regional captain on reserve. I get 10-11 days off a month, which isn't very much since I commute between DEN-ORD. When I was a relatively senior FO I had about 15 days off a month on average. I won't be seeing those kind of numbers for a long time now |
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Regional FO, very low in seniority, on reserve. 4 days a week on call (usually from 3am-6pm, meaning the company can call me any time between those hours and I have to be at the airport within 2 hours), the other 3 days are off. Works out to either 11 or 12 days off (depending on if the month has 30 or 31 days). In the 7 months since I finished training I probably actually work 10-15 days a month. June was my busiest month (I was actively trying to get as much trips as I can and had a trip carry over from the previous month) and I worked 17 days. I think February was my slowest month and I worked 5 days. The other days I'm on call but not on a trip I'm just sitting at home watching TV/playing online/at the park getting some exercise waiting for the phone to ring. A couple of things to note about my situation: I live in base (1 hour from the airport parking lot, so I can sit reserve at home), my base is slightly overstaffed, I'm getting furloughed in 2 months.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2001 Location: Rockford, IL
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I am at a Legacy carrier, I am on the bottom of the list sitting reserve. We are on reserve 19 days a month. Each month we bid for days off. Next month I work the first 13 days of the month, get 11 days off then back for the last 6 days. We have long call and short call reserve, but it is awarded daily. You might be long call one day, short call the next, and then back to long call. If you live in base it is nice. I commute so I try to get the trips that go to my hometown. At my regional, I spent a lot of time on reserve as a captain living in base. I prefer the long stretches over the 4 on 3 off, 5 on 2 off schedules we had there. |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Fresno, CA
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I'm a captain at SkyWest and I usually get 15-16 days off a month and mostly 4 day trips.
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| | #6 |
| Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Location: Random hotels of America
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I am a somewhat senior FO at my base JFK. Been here (OH) for two years. I get 14 to 15 days off a month. I commute from Florida but can bid trips that allow me to commute on both ends of my trips. With my company funny-lowing about 300 pilots in Sept. I think I might go back on reserve.
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it might be a good idea to read some of the perspective articles on the main menu. There are a lot of articles there that go into specifics such as scheduling.
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Well, I just upgraded to CA, so I'm low on that side of the list. I'm still on "reserve," which means I vary from doing nothing to be gone all the time. Here's what a typical week looks like for me: Mon 10:00-20:00 -- reserve period Tue see Mon Wed see Mon Thur OFF Fri OFF Sat see Mon Sun see Mon Now, I might get called sometime between 1000 and 2000 to do anything from a quick out and back to a full on 4-day trip. Now, the days I'm off, I'm generally off. So, if they DO give me a trip, I have to be back before Thur (using the above example). They CAN extend me into a day off, but there's things that go along with that like an extra day off next month, premium pay and they have to release me as soon as I get back in base. I'm hopeing for a "high speed" line sometime in the next few months. That means I'll get the trips that leave at like 7 pm and get back at 8 am, but I'm off for the rest of the day. Both those lines and the reserve line have 10 days off a month.
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| Senior Member | Not sure if you want to know what a 'monthly schedule' looks like or what a trip/pairing looks like. Either way, here is a trip I did not too long ago, just to give you an idea.
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East
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| ![]() I am relatively senior in base (top 15% or so) and this is my typical pairing this month. I am a commuter so note that my first day starts at 0505 which means I leave the night prior. I took a fedex flight that departed BOS at 11PM and got to EWR at 12:30AM and hung out in the crew room from 1am until my showtime. I got done at 1:30PM on day 4 and was home by 5:00PM. Wouldnt mind that Miami or Orlando overnight in the above post though.
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| | #11 |
| Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Miami
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Thanks for the schedules guys, but what the devil do all those numbers mean (apart from the dep/arr times)??
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| Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: Elk Grove, CA
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DY DD DH C FLTNO DPS-ARS DEPL ARRL BLKT GRNT TBLK TDHD TCRD TPAY TDUTY LAYOVER MO 21 3115 CMH-CLT 0727 0851 0124 0054 MO 21 3115 CLT-GSO 0945 1042 0057 0048 MO 21 * 3110 GSO-CLT 1130 1218 0048 0202 MO 21 3222 CLT-ATL 1420 1535 0115 0040 MO 21 3124 ATL-CLT 1615 1739 0124 0041 MO 21 3124 CLT-DTW 1820 2008 0148 0736 0736 1341 DTW 0947 D-END: 2023L (RR 800) REPT: 0610L *Hotel Data Erased* DTW *Hotel Data Erased* TU 22 3291 DTW-CLT 0640 0824 0144 0101 TU 22 3143 CLT-CHS 0925 1026 0101 0245 0245 0431 CHS 1924 D-END: 1041L (CR 1100) REPT: 0605L *Hotel Data Erased* *Hotel Data Erased* WE 23 3148 CHS-PHL 0635 0822 0147 0128 WE 23 3148 PHL-PVD 0950 1118 0128 0315 0315 0528 PVD 1757 D-END: 1133L (NR 900) REPT: 0530L *Hotel Data Erased* *Hotel Data Erased* TH 24 3259 PVD-PHL 0600 0723 0123 0040 TH 24 3259 PHL-BNA 0803 0921 0218 0049 TH 24 3254 BNA-PHL 1010 1310 0200 0224 TH 24 3493 PHL-CMH 1534 1707 0133 0714 0714 1152 D-END: 1722L T.A.F.B.: 8240 Total: 2050 0000 0000 2050 3532 Here's my trip starting on Monday...the #'s mean...from left to right. Date, flight #, city pairings, departure time, arrival time, total time blocked for flight, ground time between flights.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: DFW
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Legacy airline pilot: I fly only once a month........on a thursday...........a one day trip [known as a turn]........Atlanta to Cancun, then deadhead back. They pay me.............oh, I don't know............about $350,000 a year to do that. When not flying, I like to go swimming in my Scrooge McDuck -like vault of money, while laughing at poor people and lighting my cuban cigars with $100 bills. Don't believe me? Well just ask my neighbors, my flight attendants, or any airline analyist or journalist. They'll tell you!
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| Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MD
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I have 14 off in August. Should be 15 but I have a carry over trip. All early am shows (lame).
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: Park Ridge, IL
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Here's my July schedule: Quote:
Note that I work 13 days for 97 hours! This is where you all should aspire to be - where the work curve and the time-off curve meet... It's only taken me until I'm 49 to get there! LOL! Kevin
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| Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2005
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Guys you need to edited out the hotel info.
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East
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| Why? At CJC they are almost always wrong. Im not kidding either, you never pay any attention to what hotel info is on your schedule.
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| Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2005
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Here is my last 4-day. DT EQ FLT STA DEP STA ARR AC FLY GTR GRD ACT¶ SKD 15 E5 4080 ORD 1645 BNA 1810 1.25 0.25 ¶ SKD 15 E5 4337 BNA 1835 ORD 2015 1.40 1.35 ¶ SKD 15 E5 4053 ORD 2150 DBQ 2235 0.45 ¶ D/P GTR 3.52 P/C 0.00 TL 3.52¶ HALF DAY COUNT DBQ 3¶ SKD ONDUTY 6.50 ODL 17.20¶ SKD 16 EB 4226 DBQ 1655 ORD 1745 0.50 2.35 ¶ SKD 16 E5 3949 ORD 2020 BMI 2105 RF 0.45 ¶ D/P GTR 1.36 P/C 0.00 TL 1.36¶ HALF DAY COUNT BMI 2¶ SKD ONDUTY 5.10 ODL 19.00¶ SKD 17 E5 3948 BMI 1705 ORD 1755 RF 0.50 0.40 ¶ SKD 17 E5 3956 ORD 1835 GRB 1930 RF 0.55 0.25 ¶ SKD 17 E5 3956 GRB 1955 MQT 2130 RF 0.35 ¶ D/P GTR 2.27 P/C 0.00 TL 2.27¶ HALF DAY COUNT MQT 1¶ SKD ONDUTY 4.25 ODL 9.00¶ SKD 18 E5 4104 MQT 0730 MKE 0725 RF 0.55 0.35 ¶ SKD 18 E5 4104 MKE 0800 ORD 0845 RF 0.45 0.40 ¶ SKD 18 E5 4206 ORD 0925 AZO 1110 RF 0.45 0.25 ¶ SKD 18 E5 4207 AZO 1135 ORD 1130 RF 0.55 ¶ D/P GTR 3.33 P/C 0.00 TL 3.33¶ SKD ONDUTY 6.00 EXP 67.35¶ |
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| Senior Member Join Date: Nov 2005 Location: Raleigh, NC
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Gonzo, do you guys have a trip rig that gives you more than 11:28 for the trip? As lineholders we'd get a daily pay guarantee for that at least unless it was assigned to a reserve, who they can give "line credit only" (which sucks). My next month is like this: 1 Fri--off 2 Sat--off 3 Sun--off 4 Mon--work 5 Tues--work 6 Wed--work 7 Thurs--work 8 Fri--recurrent ground 9 Sat--off 10 Sun--off 11 Mon--work 12 Tues--work 13 Wed--work 14 Thurs--work 15 Fri--off 16 Sat--off 17 Sun--off 18 Mon--work 19 Tues--work 20 Wed--work 21 Thurs--off 22 Fri--off 23 Sat--off 24 Sun--off 25 Mon--off 26 Tues--off 27 Wed--work 28 Thurs--work 29 Fri--work 30 Sat--off 31 Sun--off It turns out to be 16 days off and 84hrs of credit. I bid in the top 5th of my base. I would have spread the 6-day block off out a little more evenly, but my cousin is getting married and I allowed for recovery and travel time. Everything is commutable, so with the exception of the night before recurrent (it's in base, so I have to spring for a hotel) I'll be at home every night I'm not at work.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MD
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To CJC 400 pilots; Have they started letting you bid on schedules or are they still assigning them to you? |
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| Senior Member Join Date: May 2006 Location: East
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I have bid all but one month which was May.
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I am an F/O at a 747 cargo operator. I'm the last dude on the airframe, so I get what's left over. That amounts to reserve, which means I sit in my hotel room, read JC, and either wait until they call me to go fly the airplane or send me home. I do this 16 days a month. Either the first 16 or the last. Quote:
I'm almost there...in striking distance at least.
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| Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2005 Location: Twin Cities
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WE: Wednesday 5429: Flight number CVG-PBI: Covington, KY - West Palm Beach, FL 0900: Departure time in local 1122: Arrival time in local 222: Total flight time 33: Minutes to "turn" (before outbound flight PBI-CVG) CR7: Aircraft type 703: Total block flight time for the day (222 + 228 + 213) 1133 + 1027: Not sure D-END: Duty period end, which is 20 minutes after he gets in to Boston. REPT: Report time the next morning
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| Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2003 Location: Low Earth Orbit
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Fortunately, I'm on the side of the curve where time off exceeds the work curve. I work 14ish days/month and average 40 hours/month. I'm very thankful that I don't have to worry about min guarantee....salary is a beautiful thing. PS....ATL to Seoul!!!!!! Man. You must have roids like mad. | |
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