Larry King Live and USAPA

[Bumblebee]

Originally Posted by kellwolf

What if they fill out an ASAP after every flight.

"Due to concerns about fuel and making it across the ocean, coupled with complex departure procedures, I forgot to turn off the APU."

. . . and burned an additional (1000 lbs ?) while doing it. That's a laugh

[cencal83406]

Ehem.... anyone with less than 1000 TT and less than 1 year at a company shouldn't already be a Union bad boy. JetU'ers y'all paid $30 grand so why should the organization that protects my job be staffed by you??

Anyone with less than a year should pray they don't have to go into a meeting with management with no union rep. ;-) good times!

[dvtpilot]

Anyone watch the youtube series...."cant take the heat"?

[kellwolf]

Originally Posted by cencal83406

Ehem.... anyone with less than 1000 TT and less than 1 year at a company shouldn't already be a Union bad boy. JetU'ers y'all paid $30 grand so why should the organization that protects my job be staffed by you??

Anyone with less than a year should pray they don't have to go into a meeting with management with no union rep. ;-) good times!

Um, is there a story behind this one? Inquiring minds wanna know. And if someone's been here less than a year....shouldn't they still be on probation?

[Doug Taylor]

I had less than a year at Skyway when I volunteered (well, actually I was drafted) into the MEC Communications Committee.

It wasn't necessarily because I was "angry" like a lot of people are. I just thought I could do my part and I was snarky and sarcastic enough to do a good job at the whole communications thing and thought our pilot group deserved better than what we were getting from Skyway management.

[PCL_128]

I joined the Scheduling and Communications committees before my probie year was up. But it was because I was angry.

[BobDDuck]

You know the biggest downside of working Comms? You can't post on in house (or maybe even outside) webboards anymore because people who are angry at the union insinuate that YOUR opinion is the actual union opinion and you start getting in trouble for stuff.

[Doug Taylor]

Not much of a problem with that back in 1996!

"Innernets, whuz dat?"

[PCL_128]

Originally Posted by BobDDuck

You know the biggest downside of working Comms? You can't post on in house (or maybe even outside) webboards anymore because people who are angry at the union insinuate that YOUR opinion is the actual union opinion and you start getting in trouble for stuff.

Never stopped me.

[BobDDuck]

Must be nice. Then again, maybe you didn't have an old MEC group trying to spread FUD about the current MEC group at every chance they got.

[Doug Taylor]

Ahh, "FUD". I remember FUD! Brings back memories.

"F"ear, "U"ncertainty & "D"oubt -- whenever you want to wreck resolve, "FUD" campaigns are very effective.

"Can't strike! We'll LIQUIDATE!" (fear)

"Gotta give concessions, gotta! If not, we might not make it! Yeaaaaaaargh!" (uncertainty)

"OMG! OMG! It's coming down to the wire! I just want this over! I'll vote yes for ANYTHING!" (doubt)

[Bumblebee]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Ahh, "FUD". I remember FUD! Brings back memories.

"F"ear, "U"ncertainty & "D"oubt -- whenever you want to wreck resolve, "FUD" campaigns are very effective.

"Can't strike! We'll LIQUIDATE!" (fear)

"Gotta give concessions, gotta! If not, we might not make it! Yeaaaaaaargh!" (uncertainty)

"OMG! OMG! It's coming down to the wire! I just want this over! I'll vote yes for ANYTHING!" (doubt)

thanks for the definitions . . . I had some profanity as one of the words and was working on "D"

[BobDDuck]

Yeah, FUD is effective, and I'm still trying to figure out a way a Union can use it on a Company. So far, over here, the company hasn't pulled anything with it recently, although the last time we were supposed to vote on a rate for bigger airplanes our DO told us that if we didn't vote yes we were going to "shut down on wednesday". We never made the bag stickers but set up a group that said "Is It Wednesday Yet?"