FA vs FA - Page 2

B767Driver · June 27th, 2008, 21:35

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

It's cause chicks dig you man.

It's the "No, seriously, I'm happily married. For reals, girl" that kills 'em!

(text from Kristie in 3...2....1....)

I got lucky with my wife...I definitely married up, like you Doug. The best part though, no drama, no bull#$%^, no princess complex. Life is good...even after 14 years (we were married at 22).

N826AW · June 27th, 2008, 21:39

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Originally Posted by B767Driver

My wife and I had a conversation recently about whether a girl feels pressure to "put out" if a guy buys dinner/movie, etc. She said it's been so long since she's been out on a date that she couldn't remember. Of course, I think we both had different thoughts on the subject!

My girlfriend and I had the same discussion last week after I bought dinner. So last night she paid, and I felt obligated to put out. Either way...

Doug Taylor · June 27th, 2008, 22:56

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Originally Posted by B767Driver

I got lucky with my wife...I definitely married up, like you Doug. The best part though, no drama, no bull#$%^, no princess complex. Life is good...even after 14 years (we were married at 22).

Hey, ching-ching, amigo!

You know, I'm from a family of all boys, we apparently have very similar wives (high on logic, low on soap opera-esque drama) so you know the "Like ZOMG, I'm going to like apply for the Real World Hollywood and become a star, start a fashion line and raise the cutest puppies on the sunny side of the moon and win the lottery next week" types drive both you and I nuts.

Cptnchia · June 28th, 2008, 01:03

Dude,
You think you have it bad having to listen to them at dinner? I get to hear the other side, after the wife comes home from another trip as A line with a newbie on board. I get to hear all the stupid stuff the poor girl did and how my wife feels bad but she had to rip her a new one. The latest one was a LOD speaker who almost blew two slides on an 88, the second one right after my wife told her NOT to touch the door.

ASpilot2be · June 28th, 2008, 01:30

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Originally Posted by Qgar

the only thing I'd be giving him is milk and cookies before tucking him in!

Is that what it is called these days

Cruise · June 28th, 2008, 01:46

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Originally Posted by ASpilot2be

Is that what it is called these days

pwnd!

Cruise · June 28th, 2008, 01:50

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Originally Posted by B767Driver

My wife and I had a conversation recently about whether a girl feels pressure to "put out" if a guy buys dinner/movie, etc. She said it's been so long since she's been out on a date that she couldn't remember. Of course, I think we both had different thoughts on the subject!

Sounds like you need to get on that......taking your wife on a date, that is.

Easy there all you pervs, the guy's happily married!

PGT · June 28th, 2008, 03:12

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Originally Posted by Qgar

We always get separate checks, except for this one CA, who always pays for the entire crew, just about every time. And, no, he certainly doesn't expect anything in return. EVER. Besides with the age difference between us, the only thing I'd be giving him is milk and cookies before tucking him in!

Who is Seggy...

Kristie · June 28th, 2008, 03:27

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Originally Posted by MQAAord

Good golly, even at Eagle, I paid for my own ####! I don't want a free ride, and I sure as hell don't want some guy thinking I owe him ANYTHING just cause he bought me a martini! (There were a few exceptions to this, as I'll tell below....)

The funny thing is that girls now a days don't have that same ol' school mentality we do. I have a younger girlfriend (my hair stylist actually) that when we hang out, has no problem just taking the drink and walking away without saying thanks when she's at the bar....I think it's the whole same entitlement theory. it's really kind of strange.

shoot, i think i'd still have a problem with it considering the dangers of ruffies and all out there.

Qgar · July 5th, 2008, 10:57

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Originally Posted by ASpilot2be

Is that what it is called these days

Oh, verrry clever, dear!

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Originally Posted by Cruise

pwnd!

Oh be quiet!

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Originally Posted by PGT

Who is Seggy...

Nope--wasn't Seggy! He wasn't out of IOE yet, so THERE.

NC_BE300 · July 5th, 2008, 13:36

Interesting thing about getting dinner/drinks on an overnight....
Back when i was brand new and still on 1st year pay-
There was one really cool captain that his thing was he would buy dinner and the 1st round of drinks for the new guy to help ease the burden and welcome the new person in.
It was a really cool gesture-and something he said to think about when the new person becomes a captain and flies with a new hire.

Doug Taylor · July 5th, 2008, 13:50

Oh I understand. When I was a freshman at Southernjets, I usually had to put up a stink in order to pay for my own food and beer. I just got a massive raise from my last job at Skyway and it was the most money I've ever made but captains and FO's insisted on helping the new guy thru his probationary year. But that was in the late 1990's and captain's actually had some phat loot.

BUT, here's the dichotomy. Domestic on a small three-crew regional jet and international on a 11-plus crew internetational flight are two different things because of the scale.

An small jet crew goes out, well, it's probably a shorter layover in a relatively inexpensive city and there's usually only one or two new hires.

However, when you're dragging an airplane of 11 people into a city like London where there are primarily new hire flight attendants, it's a lot different. If they expect it, consider that a cocktail might easily run $8 to $10 USD, times up to 8. So if the skipper buys a round of drinks, it's a hefty amount of change. Kind of hard to justify to the wife how you spent a couple hundred smackaroos on a layover.

It was a tradition, which largely dissolved into a courtesy after paycut-apolooza, especially since it's been reported that some inflight field service managers allay the new hires fear of making very little and laying over in very expensive cities, coupled with a laughably weak American dollar (it's bad

), that if they (and I quote) "...just hang out with the pilots, they'll take care of you..."

If I do buy a round, it's out of camaraderie amongst the crew, not because of guilt. Perhaps if I was making $200/hr again, fantastic international override and a strong American dollar, it might be a little different. But I don't hang out in large groups anyway because people get a little ridiculous. Four or five for the wrecking crew, max!

Qgar · July 5th, 2008, 14:03

Great points Doug!. There is a HUGE difference between our crews and yours.

Just so no one thinks I'm a moocher--I did chip in with another FA to pay for drinks/appetizers for the CA who treated us on 2 day trip! He fought it, but we prevailed.

And, I have bought meals for both a CA and FO at different times. Once was when we had a mx issue and he stayed on the plane but was hungry so I brought it back for him. Once was when an FO realized he had no $ on him in the cafeteria on a very quick turn, so I paid for it. Both are nice guys and I had no problem doing it--like Doug says, just paying it forward.

Doug Taylor · July 5th, 2008, 14:13

Another sangria, Q?

Qgar · July 5th, 2008, 14:16

Sure, why not? I'm easy---ummm---I mean agreeable!

Doug Taylor · July 5th, 2008, 14:21

Velocipede · July 5th, 2008, 20:53

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Originally Posted by NC_BE300

There was one really cool captain that his thing was he would buy dinner and the 1st round of drinks for the new guy to help ease the burden and welcome the new person in.
It was a really cool gesture-and something he said to think about when the new person becomes a captain and flies with a new hire.

Exactly my policy. When they ask if they can pay, I tell them to take their new hire F/Os out when they've got the extra stripe.

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

So if the skipper buys a round of drinks, it's a hefty amount of change. Kind of hard to justify to the wife how you spent a couple hundred smackaroos on a layover.

Actually, my wife knows I like to entertain the crew, so she gives me a liberal entertainment budget.

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Originally Posted by Qgar

Sure, why not? I'm easy---ummm---I mean agreeable!

Agreeable, maybe. I somehow find "easy" extremely hard to believe.

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

Another sangria, Q?

A round of pomegranite martinis on Mr. Taylor, please.

rausda27 · July 6th, 2008, 07:43

Doug Taylor bought me a beer once. It was in 2003. I saved the bottle and placed it in the center of my "I heart DT and JC" shrine.

June 28th, 2008, 01:03	#29
Cptnchia Senior Member Join Date: May 2007 Location: Southern Mecca Posts: 742	Re: FA vs FA Dude, You think you have it bad having to listen to them at dinner? I get to hear the other side, after the wife comes home from another trip as A line with a newbie on board. I get to hear all the stupid stuff the poor girl did and how my wife feels bad but she had to rip her a new one. The latest one was a LOD speaker who almost blew two slides on an 88, the second one right after my wife told her NOT to touch the door. __________________ "Consideration is an extension of safety. It begins with the first contact with our passengers, no matter where this is—reservations, porter, ticket agent or wherever." C.E. Woolman

July 5th, 2008, 13:36	#36
NC_BE300 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: JFK Posts: 427	Re: FA vs FA Interesting thing about getting dinner/drinks on an overnight.... Back when i was brand new and still on 1st year pay- There was one really cool captain that his thing was he would buy dinner and the 1st round of drinks for the new guy to help ease the burden and welcome the new person in. It was a really cool gesture-and something he said to think about when the new person becomes a captain and flies with a new hire.

July 5th, 2008, 13:50	#37
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,315 Blog Entries: 1	Re: FA vs FA Oh I understand. When I was a freshman at Southernjets, I usually had to put up a stink in order to pay for my own food and beer. I just got a massive raise from my last job at Skyway and it was the most money I've ever made but captains and FO's insisted on helping the new guy thru his probationary year. But that was in the late 1990's and captain's actually had some phat loot. BUT, here's the dichotomy. Domestic on a small three-crew regional jet and international on a 11-plus crew internetational flight are two different things because of the scale. An small jet crew goes out, well, it's probably a shorter layover in a relatively inexpensive city and there's usually only one or two new hires. However, when you're dragging an airplane of 11 people into a city like London where there are primarily new hire flight attendants, it's a lot different. If they expect it, consider that a cocktail might easily run $8 to $10 USD, times up to 8. So if the skipper buys a round of drinks, it's a hefty amount of change. Kind of hard to justify to the wife how you spent a couple hundred smackaroos on a layover. It was a tradition, which largely dissolved into a courtesy after paycut-apolooza, especially since it's been reported that some inflight field service managers allay the new hires fear of making very little and laying over in very expensive cities, coupled with a laughably weak American dollar (it's bad ), that if they (and I quote) "...just hang out with the pilots, they'll take care of you..." If I do buy a round, it's out of camaraderie amongst the crew, not because of guilt. Perhaps if I was making $200/hr again, fantastic international override and a strong American dollar, it might be a little different. But I don't hang out in large groups anyway because people get a little ridiculous. Four or five for the wrecking crew, max! __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

July 5th, 2008, 14:03	#38
Qgar Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC/EWR Posts: 3,766	Re: FA vs FA Great points Doug!. There is a HUGE difference between our crews and yours. Just so no one thinks I'm a moocher--I did chip in with another FA to pay for drinks/appetizers for the CA who treated us on 2 day trip! He fought it, but we prevailed. And, I have bought meals for both a CA and FO at different times. Once was when we had a mx issue and he stayed on the plane but was hungry so I brought it back for him. Once was when an FO realized he had no $ on him in the cafeteria on a very quick turn, so I paid for it. Both are nice guys and I had no problem doing it--like Doug says, just paying it forward. __________________ Colgan Q-400 FA, ATS, FA Union Rep and Hotel Committee Chairperson. Just Remember -- NOT ALL THOSE WHO WANDER ARE LOST... I may have wings, but that doesn't make me an angel.....

July 5th, 2008, 14:13	#39
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 41,315 Blog Entries: 1	Re: FA vs FA Another sangria, Q? __________________ Doug Taylor http://76school.flyblog.com (old!) http://30west.flyblog.com (updated 11/28)

July 5th, 2008, 14:16	#40
Qgar Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2007 Location: NYC/EWR Posts: 3,766	Re: FA vs FA Sure, why not? I'm easy---ummm---I mean agreeable! __________________ Colgan Q-400 FA, ATS, FA Union Rep and Hotel Committee Chairperson. Just Remember -- NOT ALL THOSE WHO WANDER ARE LOST... I may have wings, but that doesn't make me an angel.....

July 6th, 2008, 07:43	#43
rausda27 Senior Member Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,263	Re: FA vs FA Doug Taylor bought me a beer once. It was in 2003. I saved the bottle and placed it in the center of my "I heart DT and JC" shrine. __________________ "I fly because it releases my mind from the tyranny of petty things . "— Antoine de Saint-Exupéry

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