Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA

Kingairer · June 25th, 2008, 15:34

American is also making significant changes at the AmericanConnection carriers by reducing STL daily departures by approximately 35 compared to last year. After flying reliably and safely for American in St. Louis for seven years, American has requested that Trans States Airlines return to Eagle the ten EMB-145s (50 seaters) which it currently leases from Eagle. These aircraft will return to Eagle beginning early next year and will be put in service at Eagle.

Captain_Bob · June 25th, 2008, 15:39

Ouch... That's like 1/5th of TSA's fleet...

Bob

meyers9163 · June 25th, 2008, 16:07

How do you look at this. As a win for AE or a big loss for TSA? I mean in the end the planes were AE. However it sucks for those TSA guys as unless they did not meet the contract specifications they really should not be punished. Just weird how things turn. I noticed STL is the big one. Is CHQ going to get hit at all with this? Or just TSA for the time being.

Gonzo · June 25th, 2008, 16:32

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Originally Posted by meyers9163

How do you look at this. As a win for AE or a big loss for TSA? I mean in the end the planes were AE. However it sucks for those TSA guys as unless they did not meet the contract specifications they really should not be punished. Just weird how things turn. I noticed STL is the big one. Is CHQ going to get hit at all with this? Or just TSA for the time being.

The way I understand it those planes where given to TSA because AE could not staff them and the flying needed to be done. With the parking of 29 jets and all the saab we now can staff the planes.

ready2fly · June 25th, 2008, 17:10

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

The way I understand it those planes where given to TSA because AE could not staff them and the flying needed to be done. With the parking of 29 jets and all the saab we now can staff the planes.

Probably accurate.

xpanterica · June 25th, 2008, 21:04

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Originally Posted by Gonzo

The way I understand it those planes where given to TSA because AE could not staff them and the flying needed to be done. With the parking of 29 jets and all the saab we now can staff the planes.

Yep, exactly. I guess we're shrinking the airline to the proper staffing levels.

aloft · June 25th, 2008, 21:58

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Originally Posted by meyers9163

How do you look at this. As a win for AE or a big loss for TSA?

Somehow, I'm sure it's GoJet's fault. I mean, it's gotta be, right? All those guys are scabs!

:sarc asm:

DV8Pilot · June 25th, 2008, 22:03

MQAAord · June 25th, 2008, 22:06

At least he used the

tag............

Nick · June 25th, 2008, 22:07

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Originally Posted by DV8Pilot

Some just can't let it go.

MQAAord · June 25th, 2008, 22:12

Eh, I think he was actually making a joke........

meyers9163 · June 25th, 2008, 22:39

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Originally Posted by aloft

Somehow, I'm sure it's GoJet's fault. I mean, it's gotta be, right? All those guys are scabs!

:sarc asm:

Or perhaps oil, AE owning the planes etc.... many reasons we can all come up with to blame it on I'm sure! Why the hell just not blame it on Skywest/Express jet?

Captain_Bob · June 26th, 2008, 00:22

It prolly was our fault...

fly8slep · June 26th, 2008, 03:00

Wish they would have told us during their "take over the 50 seat market" speech that they are "borowing about 1/5 of the fleet, and that it could be taken away anytime". I certainly would have reconsidered going there. Oh well interviewing at a better place and if I get the job I'm not going to waterski anymore.

JetsGoWhee · June 26th, 2008, 09:08

Judging by the lounge...morale here just took a bigger leap into the toilet. This will give management no incentive to try to get a new contract for us now, but as has been said before, we've got 6 months for our all-star management to find new flying.

Aloft....more people are losing their jobs and all you can do is joke around? Not funny even if you're being sarcastic.

3green · June 26th, 2008, 09:19

I feel for the TSA fellas/gals. We are all in this boat together. No matter who has flying lost/aircraft pulled. Even if it benefits AE pilots to have the 10 aircraft returned, it really doesn't in the long run. In the end we've all suffered because that's fellow aviator's that will lose their jobs and a shrinking of overall available jobs in the industry. No one wins in the end, even though it appears AE pilots will benenfit with the return of the ERJ's in the short run. It'll just give AE management more reason to cut other flying somewhere else... Good luck to all my brother and sister's at ALL carriers.

Airdale · June 26th, 2008, 09:34

Sucks for TSA, but I gotta say, a group of Regional pilots getting pissed at another group of Regional pilots is two blind people trying to play table tennis. Managment owns us...and codeshare partners own them. So is life....

drink beer and go have sex!!!!!!!

CFIT99 · June 26th, 2008, 10:37

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drink beer and go have sex!!!!!!!

probably the best advice i've heard in a while

meyers9163 · June 26th, 2008, 11:59

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Originally Posted by Airdale

drink beer and go have sex!!!!!!!

Amen for the last part... beer? Eh might need something stronger to get through the times... Some good ole Spirits perhaps!

Foxcow · June 27th, 2008, 10:43

Well I guess that is that. Hopefully by then I will have at least 1000 PIC.

Kingairer · June 27th, 2008, 12:01

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Originally Posted by Airdale

Sucks for TSA, but I gotta say, a group of Regional pilots getting pissed at another group of Regional pilots is two blind people trying to play table tennis. Managment owns us...and codeshare partners own them. So is life....

drink beer and go have sex!!!!!!!

yeah but when you cant afford a house or a beer anymore, makes it tough to have sex.

SpiraMirabilis · June 27th, 2008, 13:32

Well, its not as though TSA couldn't get some EMB-145s real quick if they wanted some (Freedom/Mesa.)

launchpad · June 28th, 2008, 00:46

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Originally Posted by Kingairer

yeah but when you cant afford a house or a beer anymore, makes it tough to have sex.

refrigerator boxes and mad dog 20/20........gets the job done....

Gonzo · June 28th, 2008, 01:00

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Originally Posted by SpiraMirabilis

Well, its not as though TSA couldn't get some EMB-145s real quick if they wanted some (Freedom/Mesa.)

Based on the pilot CC today TSA getting more planes would not help.
Eagle is picking up the STL and MIA flying.

June 25th, 2008, 15:34	#1
Kingairer Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer Posts: 3,190	Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA American is also making significant changes at the AmericanConnection carriers by reducing STL daily departures by approximately 35 compared to last year. After flying reliably and safely for American in St. Louis for seven years, American has requested that Trans States Airlines return to Eagle the ten EMB-145s (50 seaters) which it currently leases from Eagle. These aircraft will return to Eagle beginning early next year and will be put in service at Eagle. __________________ "I do not proofread"

June 25th, 2008, 15:39	#2
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,898	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA Ouch... That's like 1/5th of TSA's fleet... Bob __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

June 25th, 2008, 16:07	#3
meyers9163 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 2,169	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA How do you look at this. As a win for AE or a big loss for TSA? I mean in the end the planes were AE. However it sucks for those TSA guys as unless they did not meet the contract specifications they really should not be punished. Just weird how things turn. I noticed STL is the big one. Is CHQ going to get hit at all with this? Or just TSA for the time being.

June 25th, 2008, 22:03	#8
DV8Pilot Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2007 Location: State of COnfusion Posts: 167	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA __________________ On the planes of hesitation bleach the bones of countless millions, who at the dawn of victory sat down to wait, and while waiting died. - Cecil B Delaney

June 25th, 2008, 22:06	#9
MQAAord Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin Posts: 9,407	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA At least he used the tag............ __________________ PPL SEL 100-ish hours TT Former American Airlines F/A (12 months) Former Simmons/Eagle F/A (6 years) Former Eagle ground school instructor (1 year) Former Eagle IOE instructor (3 years)

June 25th, 2008, 22:12	#11
MQAAord Moderator Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin Posts: 9,407	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA Eh, I think he was actually making a joke........ __________________ PPL SEL 100-ish hours TT Former American Airlines F/A (12 months) Former Simmons/Eagle F/A (6 years) Former Eagle ground school instructor (1 year) Former Eagle IOE instructor (3 years)

June 26th, 2008, 00:22	#13
Captain_Bob Old Skool Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: DFW, based in ONT, wishing I was in Maine Posts: 3,898	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA It prolly was our fault... __________________ My head is in the clouds and my heart is still in Maine... but my devotion and love belong to my wife and children. Pics!

June 26th, 2008, 03:00	#14
fly8slep Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: stl Posts: 411	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA Wish they would have told us during their "take over the 50 seat market" speech that they are "borowing about 1/5 of the fleet, and that it could be taken away anytime". I certainly would have reconsidered going there. Oh well interviewing at a better place and if I get the job I'm not going to waterski anymore.

June 26th, 2008, 09:08	#15
JetsGoWhee Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Virginia'ing Posts: 193	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA Judging by the lounge...morale here just took a bigger leap into the toilet. This will give management no incentive to try to get a new contract for us now, but as has been said before, we've got 6 months for our all-star management to find new flying. Aloft....more people are losing their jobs and all you can do is joke around? Not funny even if you're being sarcastic. __________________ Last edited by SteveC; June 26th, 2008 at 19:51. Reason: Removed unnecessary commentary

June 26th, 2008, 09:19	#16
3green Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Location: wish it was Oz, unfortunately its the airport Posts: 162	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA I feel for the TSA fellas/gals. We are all in this boat together. No matter who has flying lost/aircraft pulled. Even if it benefits AE pilots to have the 10 aircraft returned, it really doesn't in the long run. In the end we've all suffered because that's fellow aviator's that will lose their jobs and a shrinking of overall available jobs in the industry. No one wins in the end, even though it appears AE pilots will benenfit with the return of the ERJ's in the short run. It'll just give AE management more reason to cut other flying somewhere else... Good luck to all my brother and sister's at ALL carriers.

June 26th, 2008, 09:34	#17
Airdale Old Skool Join Date: May 2005 Location: Dirty Jerzey Posts: 2,109	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA Sucks for TSA, but I gotta say, a group of Regional pilots getting pissed at another group of Regional pilots is two blind people trying to play table tennis. Managment owns us...and codeshare partners own them. So is life.... drink beer and go have sex!!!!!!!

June 27th, 2008, 10:43	#20
Foxcow Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: St. Louis Posts: 1,064	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA Well I guess that is that. Hopefully by then I will have at least 1000 PIC. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell

June 27th, 2008, 13:32	#22
SpiraMirabilis Senior Member Join Date: Jun 2006 Posts: 1,435	Re: Eagle getting 10 ERJs from TSA Well, its not as though TSA couldn't get some EMB-145s real quick if they wanted some (Freedom/Mesa.) __________________ Yet Another Turboprop FO*

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