GoJets and other regionals

[jake.durham]

1) This is more of a two-part question. Who can give some information on GoJets?

2) I have applied to several different regionals and gone to several interviews. The hard part is deciding what airline is good and which ones are not. It is easy to find bad stuff about every airline but it is hard to find anything that is good. What are some ways that one can determine how good a carrier is? I have been to some interviews by "reputable" companies and come out feeling very uncomfortable.

I am pretty sure that many major carriers do not look at where you come from. It is more important on your stability, you as a person, your flight times, etc... Any help or info would be great. In the end I just want to fly and do what I have trained to do while bringing home a paycheck.

[H46Bubba]

Originally Posted by jake.durham

1) This is more of a two-part question. Who can give some information on GoJets?

2) I have applied to several different regionals and gone to several interviews. The hard part is deciding what airline is good and which ones are not. It is easy to find bad stuff about every airline but it is hard to find anything that is good. What are some ways that one can determine how good a carrier is? I have been to some interviews by "reputable" companies and come out feeling very uncomfortable.

I am pretty sure that many major carriers do not look at where you come from. It is more important on your stability, you as a person, your flight times, etc... Any help or info would be great. In the end I just want to fly and do what I have trained to do while bringing home a paycheck.

Stay away as far as you can from GoJets! There are much better places to go.

[jake.durham]

Ok. But this is the same response I get about many airlines. Most people just say "no" or "stay away" from so-and-so. What is so bad about many of these places?

[cfii2007]

Check out the threads on here, and avoid places that say "stay away."

The responses you get are typically from current employees who can give you the inside scoop.

[OldTownPilot]

There are a couple of beauties in the 'hot topics' forum.

[jake.durham]

Maybe someone can provide a link to a specific thread becuase I cannot really find one other than those that have just more ranting about certain companies with little to no explanations.

Also many people I have talked to from some of these bad companies who work there seem to love it. It seems that there are more complaints from people who do not work there.

[BajtheJino]

Originally Posted by jake.durham

It seems that there are more complaints from people who do not work there.

Therein lies your answer!

[surreal1221]

Real quickly:

GoJets was developed by management to act as an alter-ego airline to the TSA guys.

This way, enabling management to circumvent the already established contract with TSA.

As such, you can now imagine why seeking employment at GoJets will in the long term be a negative result. That is, unless you're one of those people who want to undercut your fellow professional pilots.

And of course you're only going to hear only negative things about such a company, especially from those who do not work there. I don't want some other pilot coming in and saying "I'll do his work for less."

I'd certainly hope you wouldn't support such a claim as well.

[JEP]

Originally Posted by jake.durham

Ok. But this is the same response I get about many airlines. Most people just say "no" or "stay away" from so-and-so. What is so bad about many of these places?

here is a start:

http://forums.jetcareers.com/search....archid=1063985

Originally Posted by jake.durham

Maybe someone can provide a link to a specific thread becuase I cannot really find one other than those that have just more ranting about certain companies with little to no explanations.

Also many people I have talked to from some of these bad companies who work there seem to love it. It seems that there are more complaints from people who do not work there.

True, but what would you expect. If people are working at place 'x', complaining about, and not leaving then it is their own fault. Could it be people that don't work there or won't work there.

Don't take this the wrong way but you seem to be digging for an answer you already have. You have asked the question and do not seem to like the answers you are receiving. Take a look through the thread search above and there is plenty of info there.

[aloft]

Don't expect unemotional, fact-based, well-reasoned responses regarding GoJet on here. Too many kool-aid drinkers who are quick to take whatever anyone tells them as gospel.

Suffice to say, nobody on this board has credible information regarding GoJet. Ask elsewhere.

[BobDDuck]

Oh boy... Matt FTW again.

Honestly, man, who would you need to hear it from before you believed it?

And don't just say somebody who knows the truth, because last time I counted there were about 5 or 6 of them that you wouldn't believe.

[JEP]

Originally Posted by aloft

Don't expect unemotional, fact-based, well-reasoned responses regarding GoJet on here. Too many kool-aid drinkers who are quick to take whatever anyone tells them as gospel.

Suffice to say, nobody on this board has credible information regarding GoJet. Ask elsewhere.

do we not have any TSA pilots? seriously?


what would be credible in your eyes?

[Doug Taylor]

I guess not my opinion either. But oh well.

[JetsGoWhee]

Originally Posted by aloft

Suffice to say, nobody on this board has credible information regarding GoJet. Ask elsewhere.

I think that we had this same discussion a couple weeks ago and it degraded into childish name-calling... There are many people here that have credible knowledge on the subject. Some of us actually work at TSA.

Perhaps civil is the way to go? No? Anyways, if you have specific questions on GoJet, PM me, otherwise, use the search function please. This topic has been discussed to death oh-so many times and there are an abundance of dead-threads on it that should cover all the bases.

Welcome to JC, but use the search function in the future!

[Foxcow]

I've also been at TSA for a while.


I would recommend that you do not go to gojet.

[aloft]

Originally Posted by JetsGoWhee

Some of us actually work at TSA.

Not terribly relevant; Surreal works for ASA, does that make him qualified to speak authoritatively on matters at SkyWest? Laura Bush is in her 8th year as First Lady, does this make her qualified to speak authoritatively on US foreign policy? (Or be President?)

Besides, how many of you TSA guys were with the company *at the time*?

That's what I thought.

None of you have direct knowledge, you're only regurgitating what your union has told you--and thus, you're simply not credible on the subject.

[aloft]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I guess not my opinion either. But oh well.

Come on dude, you should know better; opinions are a dime a dozen on here, everybody's got one whether they're qualified to speak on the matter or not. But un-spun, verifiable facts germane to the question are hard to come by. Note that we've never had a SINGLE GoJet employee comment in any of the previous threads!

That said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt--but you've got to provide the sources of info used to form your opinion if you expect it to carry weight. "Because Doug 'JetCareers' Taylor said so" isn't sufficient, unless you play golf with Hulas or something similar.

Yeah it's a pretty high bar, but the B.S. offered up as fact on this subject is piled pretty deep around here.

[JetsGoWhee]

What crawled up your a** seriously...

[ILS37R]

Originally Posted by jake.durham

1) This is more of a two-part question. Who can give some information on GoJets?

2) I have applied to several different regionals and gone to several interviews. The hard part is deciding what airline is good and which ones are not. It is easy to find bad stuff about every airline but it is hard to find anything that is good. What are some ways that one can determine how good a carrier is? I have been to some interviews by "reputable" companies and come out feeling very uncomfortable.

I am pretty sure that many major carriers do not look at where you come from. It is more important on your stability, you as a person, your flight times, etc... Any help or info would be great. In the end I just want to fly and do what I have trained to do while bringing home a paycheck.

1. Not gonna touch that one, plus everyone else has given you guidance there.

2. All airlines have their good and their bad. Some more bad than good. Go with the one that offers the best Quality of Life (QOL) for you. Will you be based in a city/region you like? Will you have to commute (and can you deal with that)? Can you survive at your base with a sober assessment of the compensation? What are your priorities re: upgrade time, job security (*cough*), and schedules? Do you have any special priorities (e.g. wanting ATR 42/72 time so you have a shot at jumping over the Europe someday)? Making a plan is perilous, but where do you want to be in five years? Will you be content/financially solvent if the business climate changes and you're stuck in the right seat for longer than you anticipated?

Re: Major Airlines. No, the airlines largely don't care where you built your hours. However, the pilot(s) interviewing you may. To use your example, while not necessarily likely, it's possible the line pilot at your Major interview cut his or her teeth at TSA and has very strong feelings (justified or not) about GoJet. Given two otherwise equally-qualified candidates, who do you think will get the job (and/or have the easier interview)? Commercial aviation is a small world.

[Ian J]

Originally Posted by Doug Taylor

I guess not my opinion either. But oh well.

Originally Posted by aloft

Come on dude, you should know better; opinions are a dime a dozen on here, everybody's got one whether they're qualified to speak on the matter or not. But un-spun, verifiable facts germane to the question are hard to come by. Note that we've never had a SINGLE GoJet employee comment in any of the previous threads!

That said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt--but you've got to provide the sources of info used to form your opinion if you expect it to carry weight. "Because Doug 'JetCareers' Taylor said so" isn't sufficient, unless you play golf with Hulas or something similar.

Yeah it's a pretty high bar, but the B.S. offered up as fact on this subject is piled pretty deep around here.

I'd be feeling really good about dedicating my time and resources to provide a free, quality, educational website if I were Doug right about now.

[Doug Taylor]

Originally Posted by aloft

Come on dude, you should know better; opinions are a dime a dozen on here, everybody's got one whether they're qualified to speak on the matter or not. But un-spun, verifiable facts germane to the question are hard to come by. Note that we've never had a SINGLE GoJet employee comment in any of the previous threads!

That said, I'll give you the benefit of the doubt--but you've got to provide the sources of info used to form your opinion if you expect it to carry weight. "Because Doug 'JetCareers' Taylor said so" isn't sufficient, unless you play golf with Hulas or something similar.

Yeah it's a pretty high bar, but the B.S. offered up as fact on this subject is piled pretty deep around here.

With all due respect, a guy without any first hand experience at either airline telling guys, some WITH first hand experience at TSA and others that have first-hand knowledge of the industry seems somewhat comical.

If you don't value the advice, don't stand in the way of those that are seeking it and I'd also suggest refraining from asking for it unless you deem the person "fit" to express an opinion.

I'm sorry man, I know you're dead set on working for GoJets against all advice, that's cool. But every thread about TSA or GoJets isn't the stage to justify your preconceptions about the morass you're choosing to step into.

[meritflyer]

Why would you, aloft, be so set on GoJet? I have a friend names Cody who flew with them for about a year. He commuted and quit because he couldn't take the abuse anymore from mainline and regional guys. He was heckled on the radio, laughed at in the terminal, denied the jumpseat MULTIPLE times, and got minimal respect. So, while not first hand information coming from me, his story is terrible and real.

I find it hilarious that people that don't work for an airline, yet defend them when in fact, everyone and their dog know the story about TSA and their alter-ego, GoJet. I'll die laughing when you suit up in their goofy uniform and walk through the terminal or go ask a TSA pilot for the jumpseat (or any pilot for that matter).

[777forever]

You're a brave soul if you go to GoJets. Career suicide IMO. Good luck getting a jumpseat!

[meritflyer]

Originally Posted by 777forever

You're a brave soul if you go to GoJets. Career suicide IMO. Good luck getting a jumpseat!

Ya think?

[ctab5060X]

Originally Posted by ILS37R

Commercial aviation is a small world.

Anyone getting into (or already in) aviation anywhere would be wise to take those six words to heart.