Youngest ATP?

popaviator · May 8th, 2008, 14:43

How old was the youngest "professional" pilot that you flew with? Any bad experiences? (so I can do the opposite)

Clocks · May 8th, 2008, 14:46

Probably 27-28 or so. I'm sure there are younger here.

I find the newer captain to be a lot easier to fly with. The guys who upgraded in the last 1-3 years still fly by the book. The guys who have been a captain for more like 10 years are always the first to say "here...this is a better (non standard) way to do that", and as a result are unpredictable in what they want. But that's not a side effect of age, its a side effect of something else.

jsb172 · May 8th, 2008, 15:19

When I first upgraded to the lear my captain was 22 years old. Not even old enough for his ATP. Supposedly there is a provision that under 135 flying freight you can still be pic with the type rating but w\o your ATP. He was a very sharp stick. Good pilot. At the ripe old age of 23 he had 4000TT with 1100TPIC. Makes me feel old.

Snuggle · May 8th, 2008, 21:22

Flew with a 23yr old Beech Captain here at Colgan. He's now flying a 737 for a major and I believe he turned 24 recently. Super nice guy, had a lot of charm and was always friendly to everyone.

SmitteyB · May 8th, 2008, 21:37

I'm due to upgrade here at Colgan before I turn 23.

With that being said, with the industry slowdown- it probably wont be a problem.

There is an age 23 waiver that needs to be signed off by both the state and feds. The Federal are the tough ones.

Diamnd15 · May 8th, 2008, 22:48

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Originally Posted by SmitteyB

I'm due to upgrade here at Colgan before I turn 23.

With that being said, with the industry slowdown- it probably wont be a problem.

There is an age 23 waiver that needs to be signed off by both the state and feds. The Federal are the tough ones.

are you pretty close to turning 23, and is this waiver only for 121 carriers?

higney85 · May 8th, 2008, 22:50

Good luck with a waiver. I know PNCL holds to 23, therefore I wait..... We have quite a few 23yr old CA's here. Not many percentage wise but I would imagine at least a few in each base.

kellwolf · May 8th, 2008, 22:55

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Originally Posted by higney85

Good luck with a waiver. I know PNCL holds to 23, therefore I wait..... We have quite a few 23yr old CA's here. Not many percentage wise but I would imagine at least a few in each base.

Heh. You have been taking notes, right?

woodreau · May 9th, 2008, 10:43

One of the "FOs" I flew with just had upgraded to Captain right at 23 - she had to wait until she turned 23 to upgrade, she already held the seniority and had the company and FAA required flight time. Since she was a reserve captain and flying as an FO more than she was flying as a captain, I called dispatch and crew tracking to swap us so that she could start working on her 100 hours of PIC in type to get her off high mins. She knew her stuff and I didn't have any problems flying with her.

Teller1900 · May 10th, 2008, 01:19

Both the CA that I flew with today and I are 23. There was an 19yo in my indoc class...from what I hear he's the best pilot amongst all of us from the class

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aloft · May 10th, 2008, 02:39

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Originally Posted by Teller1900

There was an 19yo in my indoc class...from what I hear he's the best pilot amongst all of us from the class

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Yeah? What's his degree in?

higney85 · May 10th, 2008, 09:36

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Originally Posted by aloft

Yeah? What's his degree in?

Female Anatomy Exploration.

BE19Pilot · May 10th, 2008, 13:09

Hello,
I've flown with many young and talented pilots while I was in the airline biz. Teller1900 spoke of one of CJC's pilots, G.K. and he was hired at 19 and is one of the best pilots I've ever flown with, certainly capable of command before 23 in my opinion. He recently moved onto to the "Q", so I wish him well!
Age isn't a factor in flying...Training and Experience are the common denominator for a good pilot.

PCL_128 · May 10th, 2008, 14:00

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Originally Posted by aloft

Yeah? What's his degree in?

Who cares? He'll be at a major by the time he's 26. Smart kid.

grnclvrs · May 10th, 2008, 16:01

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Originally Posted by BE19Pilot

Hello,
I've flown with many young and talented pilots while I was in the airline biz. Teller1900 spoke of one of CJC's pilots, G.K. and he was hired at 19 and is one of the best pilots I've ever flown with, certainly capable of command before 23 in my opinion. He recently moved onto to the "Q", so I wish him well!
Age isn't a factor in flying...Training and Experience are the common denominator for a good pilot.

I flew with him in HYA. His father is a US Airways pilot and taught him to fly the way the airlines want him to. His procedures were flawless and he was a lot more mature as a pilot than his 19 years would lead to believe.

Foxcow · May 11th, 2008, 17:01

I'm probably one of the youngest Captains at my company at 25. Maybe even the youngest. I have flown with an 18 year old FO. Imagine the comments we got.

meyers9163 · May 11th, 2008, 17:04

23.... might be 24 now.

N8389P · May 13th, 2008, 00:17

Got my Metro type at 20 and my E120 type at 21. Now I cant work because of a broken back, Wrist. And bleeding from the brain, it would be nice to be older

Snuggle · May 13th, 2008, 18:50

Quote:

Originally Posted by BE19Pilot

Hello,
Teller1900 spoke of one of CJC's pilots, G.K. and he was hired at 19 and is one of the best pilots I've ever flown with, certainly capable of command before 23 in my opinion. He recently moved onto to the "Q", so I wish him well!

I'm actually in Q training with him in Toronto. G.K. was also my sim partner for initial in the 1900. He was a great sim partner and very capable of doing this job regardless of his age. Here in systems class he understands systems and the ''book knowledge'' way better then I do.

joliet · May 13th, 2008, 18:56

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Originally Posted by popaviator

How old was the youngest "professional" pilot that you flew with? Any bad experiences? (so I can do the opposite)

Twenty Three.

May 8th, 2008, 14:43	#1
popaviator Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: Raleigh Posts: 134	Youngest ATP? How old was the youngest "professional" pilot that you flew with? Any bad experiences? (so I can do the opposite) __________________ You can trust me, I'm not like the others

May 8th, 2008, 14:46	#2
Clocks Senior Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: Getting furloughed Posts: 1,028	Re: Youngest ATP? Probably 27-28 or so. I'm sure there are younger here. I find the newer captain to be a lot easier to fly with. The guys who upgraded in the last 1-3 years still fly by the book. The guys who have been a captain for more like 10 years are always the first to say "here...this is a better (non standard) way to do that", and as a result are unpredictable in what they want. But that's not a side effect of age, its a side effect of something else. __________________

May 8th, 2008, 15:19	#3
jsb172 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2005 Posts: 61	Re: Youngest ATP? When I first upgraded to the lear my captain was 22 years old. Not even old enough for his ATP. Supposedly there is a provision that under 135 flying freight you can still be pic with the type rating but w\o your ATP. He was a very sharp stick. Good pilot. At the ripe old age of 23 he had 4000TT with 1100TPIC. Makes me feel old.

May 8th, 2008, 21:22	#4
Snuggle Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2007 Posts: 532	Re: Youngest ATP? Flew with a 23yr old Beech Captain here at Colgan. He's now flying a 737 for a major and I believe he turned 24 recently. Super nice guy, had a lot of charm and was always friendly to everyone.

May 8th, 2008, 21:37	#5
SmitteyB Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Ithaca, NY Posts: 1,942	Re: Youngest ATP? I'm due to upgrade here at Colgan before I turn 23. With that being said, with the industry slowdown- it probably wont be a problem. There is an age 23 waiver that needs to be signed off by both the state and feds. The Federal are the tough ones. __________________ Colgan SAAB FO "Colgan Air...Pissing off the world 34 people at a time"

May 8th, 2008, 22:50	#7
higney85 Senior Member Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Memphis,TN Posts: 448	Re: Youngest ATP? Good luck with a waiver. I know PNCL holds to 23, therefore I wait..... We have quite a few 23yr old CA's here. Not many percentage wise but I would imagine at least a few in each base. __________________ PCL130 P2P

May 9th, 2008, 10:43	#9
woodreau Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 256	Re: Youngest ATP? One of the "FOs" I flew with just had upgraded to Captain right at 23 - she had to wait until she turned 23 to upgrade, she already held the seniority and had the company and FAA required flight time. Since she was a reserve captain and flying as an FO more than she was flying as a captain, I called dispatch and crew tracking to swap us so that she could start working on her 100 hours of PIC in type to get her off high mins. She knew her stuff and I didn't have any problems flying with her. __________________ Good judgement comes from experience. Experience comes from surviving bad judgement.

May 10th, 2008, 01:19	#10
Teller1900 Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2008 Location: Waterville, ME Posts: 91	Re: Youngest ATP? Both the CA that I flew with today and I are 23. There was an 19yo in my indoc class...from what I hear he's the best pilot amongst all of us from the class . __________________ Teller1900

May 10th, 2008, 13:09	#13
BE19Pilot Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Roanoke Posts: 75	Re: Youngest ATP? Hello, I've flown with many young and talented pilots while I was in the airline biz. Teller1900 spoke of one of CJC's pilots, G.K. and he was hired at 19 and is one of the best pilots I've ever flown with, certainly capable of command before 23 in my opinion. He recently moved onto to the "Q", so I wish him well! Age isn't a factor in flying...Training and Experience are the common denominator for a good pilot.

May 11th, 2008, 17:01	#16
Foxcow Senior Member Join Date: May 2004 Location: STL Posts: 1,014	Re: Youngest ATP? I'm probably one of the youngest Captains at my company at 25. Maybe even the youngest. I have flown with an 18 year old FO. Imagine the comments we got. __________________ "During times of universal deceit, telling the truth becomes a revolutionary act." George Orwell Trans States Airlines

May 11th, 2008, 17:04	#17
meyers9163 Old Skool Join Date: Jun 2005 Location: Indiana Posts: 1,933	Re: Youngest ATP? 23.... might be 24 now.

May 13th, 2008, 00:17	#18
N8389P Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: KAPV AppleValley Posts: 122	Re: Youngest ATP? Got my Metro type at 20 and my E120 type at 21. Now I cant work because of a broken back, Wrist. And bleeding from the brain, it would be nice to be older

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