Q400 and PDT - Page 3

BE19Pilot · May 8th, 2008, 10:11

I think that PDT in concert with mainline is just playing a waiting game to see how cheap they can find someone to operate the LTP for them. It's inevitable that the fleet will be updated and flying a large turboprop. Just who is going to be flying it, and for what price is the open question.

BobDDuck · May 8th, 2008, 12:05

There are two theory branches here. The first is with out a merger with UAL. The second is with a merger with UAL. Personally, for all kinds of reasons I like the branch that doesn't involve the merger. That one has (eventually) more/new airplanes for PDT and PSA, maybe a west base (assuming REP or Skywest doesn't snap it up) and eventual (hahah) flow through. A merger with UAL pretty much ends with the sale (not happening) or liquidation (probable) of PSA and PDT.

And yes I have sources, and no that doesn't mean anything really.

RightSeatGirl · May 8th, 2008, 15:47

That's if UAL remains the controlling entity, which...it won't. An Airways merger with UAL would leave Doug Parker and AW at the helm, otherwise we won't merge. Parker does not favor contract carriers like UAL does....but if such a merger went down....who knows.

But if it went like you say, many of the pilots and f/a's would be absorbed into the UAL system. So that could be good for the flight crews in the long run.

BobDDuck · May 8th, 2008, 17:32

The UAL AFA contract requires that all aircraft owned by the airline are flown by FAs on the UAL list. Of course, a merger TA would have to be worked out anyways, but their contract would hold until such time. It would be nice if they either a) get rid of that clause or b) just put all the PSA and PDT FAs on their list. But in reality... who knows. I do agree that Parker won't go into a merger unless he remains in charge.

MattB · May 10th, 2008, 15:59

My concern as a PDT pilot: We merge with UAL, we keep our planes but merge with PSA. PSA dumps a number of 50 seat RJ's (lots of pilots on the street) and Colgan ends up flying the Q's. I know to expect nothing but BS to come out of Management's mouth but a year ago chuck colgan told me that all of their future growth would be in the 400 and it would be with United. His words are now coming into my head more than ever. I must say that I have nothing against colgan pilots, but if they were to pick up Dash 8 flying for USAirwaysUnited, I'll probably feel much differently.

May 8th, 2008, 10:11	#51
BE19Pilot Junior Member Join Date: Sep 2005 Location: Roanoke Posts: 77	Re: Q400 and PDT I think that PDT in concert with mainline is just playing a waiting game to see how cheap they can find someone to operate the LTP for them. It's inevitable that the fleet will be updated and flying a large turboprop. Just who is going to be flying it, and for what price is the open question.

May 8th, 2008, 12:05	#52
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,482	Re: Q400 and PDT There are two theory branches here. The first is with out a merger with UAL. The second is with a merger with UAL. Personally, for all kinds of reasons I like the branch that doesn't involve the merger. That one has (eventually) more/new airplanes for PDT and PSA, maybe a west base (assuming REP or Skywest doesn't snap it up) and eventual (hahah) flow through. A merger with UAL pretty much ends with the sale (not happening) or liquidation (probable) of PSA and PDT. And yes I have sources, and no that doesn't mean anything really. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

May 8th, 2008, 15:47	#53
RightSeatGirl Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Forever in search of the perfect Beer! Posts: 411	Re: Q400 and PDT That's if UAL remains the controlling entity, which...it won't. An Airways merger with UAL would leave Doug Parker and AW at the helm, otherwise we won't merge. Parker does not favor contract carriers like UAL does....but if such a merger went down....who knows. But if it went like you say, many of the pilots and f/a's would be absorbed into the UAL system. So that could be good for the flight crews in the long run. __________________ Having a very very hard time to find anything to give a crap about these days.....( only as far as Mexican Beer goes that is..)

May 8th, 2008, 17:32	#54
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,482	Re: Q400 and PDT The UAL AFA contract requires that all aircraft owned by the airline are flown by FAs on the UAL list. Of course, a merger TA would have to be worked out anyways, but their contract would hold until such time. It would be nice if they either a) get rid of that clause or b) just put all the PSA and PDT FAs on their list. But in reality... who knows. I do agree that Parker won't go into a merger unless he remains in charge. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

May 10th, 2008, 15:59	#55
MattB Junior Member Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: MD Posts: 117	Re: Q400 and PDT My concern as a PDT pilot: We merge with UAL, we keep our planes but merge with PSA. PSA dumps a number of 50 seat RJ's (lots of pilots on the street) and Colgan ends up flying the Q's. I know to expect nothing but BS to come out of Management's mouth but a year ago chuck colgan told me that all of their future growth would be in the 400 and it would be with United. His words are now coming into my head more than ever. I must say that I have nothing against colgan pilots, but if they were to pick up Dash 8 flying for USAirwaysUnited, I'll probably feel much differently.

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