Colgan ABE Base

myron96 · November 13th, 2007, 14:20

Do they still have a crew base at ABE for Colgan?

SmitteyB · November 13th, 2007, 14:52

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Originally Posted by myron96

Do they still have a crew base at ABE for Colgan?

Yes, but I believe it has been downsized.

Cruise is a ABE native.

Cruise · November 13th, 2007, 16:45

Yes, we used to have 2 Saabs based there. However, that has been reduced to 1 now. As such, I believe we're down to 3-4 lines of flying out of ABE, codesharing for United.

I spent 95% of my time as an F.O. in ABE. Unfortunately, once I upgraded I wasn't going to hold a line (very senior Capt. base) there so I bid out.

Anything particular you want to know?

sigpilot · November 13th, 2007, 20:27

ahhhh memories......

greaper007 · November 13th, 2007, 20:35

Anyone know what the deal with PVD is? It looks like all their lines are gone now. I heard it's only being serviced by the Beech.

Cruise · November 14th, 2007, 16:01

Yo Sig.......what's new w/ you? How's that 'other' airline treating you?

Yeah, PVD won't have a Saab again until Spring....at least that's what I've heard. Beech only for now.

sigpilot · November 14th, 2007, 16:58

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Originally Posted by Cruise

Yo Sig.......what's new w/ you? How's that 'other' airline treating you?

Yeah, PVD won't have a Saab again until Spring....at least that's what I've heard. Beech only for now.

Thats so weird, when we did PVD the flights were always pretty full. I know they still have Saab service to PVD thats done by the LGA crews

Cruise, ill post about the "other" airline, its good though. I did see John L. and Adam K. in STL for upgrade though. I pretty much saw EVERYONE there

beechpilot · November 14th, 2007, 20:19

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Originally Posted by Cruise

Yes, we used to have 2 Saabs based there. However, that has been reduced to 1 now. As such, I believe we're down to 3-4 lines of flying out of ABE, codesharing for United.

I spent 95% of my time as an F.O. in ABE. Unfortunately, once I upgraded I wasn't going to hold a line (very senior Capt. base) there so I bid out.

Anything particular you want to know?

My guess is that all the United flying will eventually go out of IAD.

SmitteyB · November 14th, 2007, 21:26

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Originally Posted by beechpilot

My guess is that all the United flying will eventually go out of IAD.

All of the United flying currently goes out of IAD anyways.

beechpilot · November 14th, 2007, 21:54

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Originally Posted by SmitteyB

All of the United flying currently goes out of IAD anyways.

Yeah I meant that IAD would probably end up being the base.

SmitteyB · November 14th, 2007, 21:57

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Originally Posted by beechpilot

Yeah I meant that IAD would probably end up being the base.

Oh, ok. Makes sense.

greaper007 · November 15th, 2007, 19:17

I heard Colgan is going to start doing a Florida push just like they did in Texas. I'm sure a few guys on this thread are happy to know that they're going to continue outstation basing. In fact the first base we're opening is KFPR (Fort Pierce, the murder capital where we murder for capital). Anywaz, it's also going to be a maintenance base. Until they can get all the Colgan MX down there it's going to be done by Aviator.+++++++++

Firebird2XC · November 15th, 2007, 19:31

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Originally Posted by greaper007

I heard Colgan is going to start doing a Florida push just like they did in Texas. I'm sure a few guys on this thread are happy to know that they're going to continue outstation basing. In fact the first base we're opening is KFPR (Fort Pierce, the murder capital where we murder for capital). Anywaz, it's also going to be a maintenance base. Until they can get all the Colgan MX down there it's going to be done by Aviator.+++++++++

No way.

Now that's funny.. I don't care WHO ya are.

SmitteyB · November 15th, 2007, 20:29

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Originally Posted by Firebird2XC

No way.

Now that's funny.. I don't care WHO ya are.

And when a captain makes a write up I'm sure Cohen will be right out there saying "Whadda-Hell? Who da hell wrote up my goddahm airplanne?"

"Robby- go check dat out"

Firebird- you probably wont get that last part, but us Aviator alums (matt, scott, monty). We all know about that one.

Firebird2XC · November 15th, 2007, 23:27

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Originally Posted by SmitteyB

And when a captain makes a write up I'm sure Cohen will be right out there saying "Whadda-Hell? Who da hell wrote up my goddahm airplanne?"

"Robby- go check dat out"

Firebird- you probably wont get that last part, but us Aviator alums (matt, scott, monty). We all know about that one.

I'm an Aviator alum. : ) You probably just don't remember me.

I was there less than a year.

myron96 · November 16th, 2007, 00:45

Cruise,
Just curious what the chances are of getting ABE as a domicile. Thinking about making a switch. Thanks.

Seggy · November 16th, 2007, 07:10

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Originally Posted by myron96

Cruise,
Just curious what the chances are of getting ABE as a domicile. Thinking about making a switch. Thanks.

Slim to none, they are closing these outstation bases sooner rather than later.

greaper007 · November 16th, 2007, 07:21

Well I wish they would close them now, I'm not getting any time in ROC. 47 hour block this month, even less if I can't get out in December. I'd pick up open time but I'm only home 2.5 days a week as it is. My marriage is still more important than my upgrade. It seems like they're going to have to close ROC, unless they give us our LGA flying back.

It seems to me that it would be better served by another base though. Right now we just do 2 round trips to Hartford a day. One in the morning and then the plane sits on the ground for about 7 hours and we do another one in the evening.

Hey Smittey, are there any open slots in SYR? I noticed you guys just got a hell of a lot of lines.

Seggy · November 16th, 2007, 07:33

Dude, bid LGA. You would be the number 1 FO down there. Also you would make a lot more money down there, you wouldn't need a crashpad, per diem, and you can drive to and from work!

greaper007 · November 16th, 2007, 08:34

Yeah, I've been trying to get into LGA for 3 months now. Apparently it's full, I e-mailed Dot and she said she'd check on it for me. Calling Mikey today.

kellwolf · November 16th, 2007, 10:25

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Originally Posted by greaper007

It seems to me that it would be better served by another base though. Right now we just do 2 round trips to Hartford a day. One in the morning and then the plane sits on the ground for about 7 hours and we do another one in the evening.

With a 7 hour "productivity" sit, I'm surprised Pinnacle management hasn't altered that already. It's one thing to have your pilots sitting for 4-5 hours, but it's something totally different to have a potential revenue generator sitting on the ramp for that long. They could be using that plane for another out and back (or two) while taking the plane that WOULD have been flying that route(s) and utilizing it somewhere else (or put it in MX). I can see having a spare, but it does no good if the spare is in an outstation, which is another reason I say outstation basing is gonna be toast in about a year or so.

SmitteyB · November 16th, 2007, 19:29

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Originally Posted by kellwolf

With a 7 hour "productivity" sit, I'm surprised Pinnacle management hasn't altered that already. It's one thing to have your pilots sitting for 4-5 hours, but it's something totally different to have a potential revenue generator sitting on the ramp for that long. They could be using that plane for another out and back (or two) while taking the plane that WOULD have been flying that route(s) and utilizing it somewhere else (or put it in MX). I can see having a spare, but it does no good if the spare is in an outstation, which is another reason I say outstation basing is gonna be toast in about a year or so.

It's something Peter (PCL CFO) mentioned in the 3Q Conf. Call. He said specifically they wanted to reduce flying in some markets and better utilize the Saabs we do have.

Scott how full are those flights? If it's anything like some of the US Airways stuff I see Colgan operate it can't be good.

We consistently operate these Saabs with load factors in the 30-40% range. How do we make money?!?!?? (On the US Airways side).

Cruise · November 16th, 2007, 20:53

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Originally Posted by myron96

Cruise,
Just curious what the chances are of getting ABE as a domicile. Thinking about making a switch. Thanks.

ABE FO = not sure what's going on there anymore. I'd venture to say it's fairly junior since many of the FO's who were there recently upgraded.

ABE CA = very senior and you're not going there...unless you want to be the endless reserve biotch.

Seggy · November 16th, 2007, 23:33

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Originally Posted by SmitteyB

We consistently operate these Saabs with load factors in the 30-40% range. How do we make money?!?!?? (On the US Airways side).

You haven't flown any of the summer flights to MVY, HYA, or ACK. Also the stuff in and out of LGA is very lucrative for us.

And like a typical slaab guy you are forgetting the Beeches, you know the other part of the airline

. The EAS stuff we do, especially up to BHB and RKD makes a TON in the summer time. Furthermore carrying 10-15 people back and forth between BOS and HPN/ISP adds up when fares are around $586.00 roundtrip.

Cruise · November 17th, 2007, 00:10

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Originally Posted by Seggy

You haven't flown any of the summer flights to MVY, HYA, or ACK. Also the stuff in and out of LGA is very lucrative for us.

And like a typical slaab guy you are forgetting the Beeches, you know the other part of the airline

. The EAS stuff we do, especially up to BHB and RKD makes a TON in the summer time. Furthermore carrying 10-15 people back and forth between BOS and HPN/ISP adds up when fares are around $586.00 roundtrip.

You express guys think you make money......HA! The only reason we 'might' make money off the beeches is because you (the pilots) aren't making any money!

BTW, do we still have Beeches?

November 13th, 2007, 14:20	#1
myron96 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 187	Colgan ABE Base Do they still have a crew base at ABE for Colgan? __________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.

November 13th, 2007, 16:45	#3
Cruise Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SYR, ABE Posts: 2,245	Re: Colgan ABE Base Yes, we used to have 2 Saabs based there. However, that has been reduced to 1 now. As such, I believe we're down to 3-4 lines of flying out of ABE, codesharing for United. I spent 95% of my time as an F.O. in ABE. Unfortunately, once I upgraded I wasn't going to hold a line (very senior Capt. base) there so I bid out. Anything particular you want to know? __________________ LIVESTRONG

November 13th, 2007, 20:27	#4
sigpilot Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Northeast Posts: 308	Re: Colgan ABE Base ahhhh memories...... __________________

November 13th, 2007, 20:35	#5
greaper007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Hartford, Ct Posts: 1,059	Re: Colgan ABE Base Anyone know what the deal with PVD is? It looks like all their lines are gone now. I heard it's only being serviced by the Beech. __________________ <<<<<Hunter S. Thompson extends the Gonzo concept to flying.

November 14th, 2007, 16:01	#6
Cruise Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SYR, ABE Posts: 2,245	Re: Colgan ABE Base Yo Sig.......what's new w/ you? How's that 'other' airline treating you? Yeah, PVD won't have a Saab again until Spring....at least that's what I've heard. Beech only for now. __________________ LIVESTRONG

November 15th, 2007, 19:17	#12
greaper007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Hartford, Ct Posts: 1,059	Re: Colgan ABE Base I heard Colgan is going to start doing a Florida push just like they did in Texas. I'm sure a few guys on this thread are happy to know that they're going to continue outstation basing. In fact the first base we're opening is KFPR (Fort Pierce, the murder capital where we murder for capital). Anywaz, it's also going to be a maintenance base. Until they can get all the Colgan MX down there it's going to be done by Aviator.+++++++++ __________________ <<<<<Hunter S. Thompson extends the Gonzo concept to flying.

November 16th, 2007, 00:45	#16
myron96 Junior Member Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 187	Re: Colgan ABE Base Cruise, Just curious what the chances are of getting ABE as a domicile. Thinking about making a switch. Thanks. __________________ Far better it is to dare mighty things, than to rank with those poor spirits who neither enjoy nor suffer much because they live in the gray twilight that knows neither victory nor defeat.

November 16th, 2007, 07:21	#18
greaper007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Hartford, Ct Posts: 1,059	Re: Colgan ABE Base Well I wish they would close them now, I'm not getting any time in ROC. 47 hour block this month, even less if I can't get out in December. I'd pick up open time but I'm only home 2.5 days a week as it is. My marriage is still more important than my upgrade. It seems like they're going to have to close ROC, unless they give us our LGA flying back. It seems to me that it would be better served by another base though. Right now we just do 2 round trips to Hartford a day. One in the morning and then the plane sits on the ground for about 7 hours and we do another one in the evening. Hey Smittey, are there any open slots in SYR? I noticed you guys just got a hell of a lot of lines. __________________ <<<<<Hunter S. Thompson extends the Gonzo concept to flying.

November 16th, 2007, 07:33	#19
Seggy Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Somewhere in the Northeast Posts: 5,076	Re: Colgan ABE Base Dude, bid LGA. You would be the number 1 FO down there. Also you would make a lot more money down there, you wouldn't need a crashpad, per diem, and you can drive to and from work! __________________ www.alpa.org

November 16th, 2007, 08:34	#20
greaper007 Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: West Hartford, Ct Posts: 1,059	Re: Colgan ABE Base Yeah, I've been trying to get into LGA for 3 months now. Apparently it's full, I e-mailed Dot and she said she'd check on it for me. Calling Mikey today. __________________ <<<<<Hunter S. Thompson extends the Gonzo concept to flying.

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