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Old October 7th, 2007, 15:17   #1
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Had my first emergency last night coming out of Newark. As we raised the gear we heard a strange "clunk" from underneath. Within 3 seconds we got an alert message for Hydr 1 low quantity. Those familiar with the ERJ know that the Hydr sys 1 controls steering, gear, inboard spoilers, and outboard brakes. AS well as one of the rudder and aileron systems. Anyhow, what happened was we lost a return line from the gear so as the gear raised all the hydr fluid was pumped overboard. We had a stinkin mess of hydr fluid underneath when we landed. The accumulator helped us raise the gear and kept the system with pressure, but that was gone as soon as we lowered the gear. We declared the emerg, got vectors and some time to run the QRH. Then when it was time we came in and landed 22L. as soon as we touched down the Eicas lit up like a xmas tree with failures of the spoilers, ail and rudder sys 1, thrust reversers, and of course no steering. We only had half the brakes too. The cap got her clear and we were tugged in. What a night. And to top it off we still had to go to destination in a new airplane and shoot an approach to 300 ovc with a nasty xwind........here is the audio. you can hear me about a 1/4 the way....asking to return to the airport.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ke...2007-0130Z.mp3
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Old October 7th, 2007, 15:49   #2
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Nice job, sounds like a doozie, but you guys handled it perfectly. Did you take the rest of the day off?
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Old October 8th, 2007, 00:16   #3
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Nice job. Once question though... why didn't you call it a day after that?
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Old October 8th, 2007, 01:34   #4
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oh, didn't see the line about shooting an approach on the next flight....guess he didn't call it a day. I can understand though, the company put us in the same situation when we had an engine failure a few years back. They have a nasty habit of sending a Chief out and asking that you complete your schedule after an emergency. In the future you can and should call it a day....and I believe the FAA encourages this practice out of consideration for safety. An emergency can have a mental and emotional drain that may not be fully realized until hours later.

But don't let that detract from a job well done handling the situation.... again, nice work.
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Had my first emergency last night coming out of Newark. As we raised the gear we heard a strange "clunk" from underneath. Within 3 seconds we got an alert message for Hydr 1 low quantity. Those familiar with the ERJ know that the Hydr sys 1 controls steering, gear, inboard spoilers, and outboard brakes. AS well as one of the rudder and aileron systems. Anyhow, what happened was we lost a return line from the gear so as the gear raised all the hydr fluid was pumped overboard. We had a stinkin mess of hydr fluid underneath when we landed. The accumulator helped us raise the gear and kept the system with pressure, but that was gone as soon as we lowered the gear. We declared the emerg, got vectors and some time to run the QRH. Then when it was time we came in and landed 22L. as soon as we touched down the Eicas lit up like a xmas tree with failures of the spoilers, ail and rudder sys 1, thrust reversers, and of course no steering. We only had half the brakes too. The cap got her clear and we were tugged in. What a night. And to top it off we still had to go to destination in a new airplane and shoot an approach to 300 ovc with a nasty xwind........here is the audio. you can hear me about a 1/4 the way....asking to return to the airport.

http://archive-server.liveatc.net/ke...2007-0130Z.mp3
6:13 into the audio. audio is a bit sketchy as it seems to be picking up a couple of different feeds. You can clearly hear the request though.

Great Job!!
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Old October 10th, 2007, 14:23   #7
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Good job, sounds like you handled the situation well.
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I read this post last weekend, and wouldn't you know it. I had the same damn thing happen on our last leg of a trip coming out of SAT. The EDP ate itself up I guess, so we turned on the backup and continued on home. Then the we lost all pressure about 15 minutes later and had to divert. With the exception that it was HYD 2, on the CRJ we lost all of the same stuff... outboard brakes, right TR, half the spoilers, all that mess. We wanted to divert to Baton Rouge where our mx base is, but the RW's weren't long enough for our crippled condition so we ended up going to AEX. What a crappy place to get stuck. The kicker was that we didn't end up leaving till 1 am, THE NEXT DAY, and I essentially lost my entire weekend off. Oh, the odds!
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