2 "D" cell or Equivalent???

Cruise · November 1st, 2005, 08:12

I was wondering what people were using for the required flashlight?

What is an equivalent light? Are they talking about candlepower or lumens, etc....

Has anyone every had any trouble w/ the Feds if they used a smaller, yet powerful light? With the advent of the LED lights, you can get a very bright light in a much smaller package.

During INDOC, the instructor was saying that he uses a mini-light and has never had a problem w/ the Feds.

Whadya think???

stevel · November 1st, 2005, 10:00

I believe equivalent refers to equivalent voltage of two D cell batteries.

I could be mistaken, but I remember reading this somewhere.

SFLAX · November 1st, 2005, 10:00

I was told that the light needed to be powerful enough for you to see the highest surface, ie the tail. I carry my 2 D cell in my bag but use a small LED to do the walk around.

BobDDuck · November 1st, 2005, 10:45

Anybody know if it has to be on your person or just accessable in the aircraft. I asked and was told that it was in the cockpit and hence we didn't need to carry one. We have cheap walmart specials onboard and most crews just rely on those.

FlyChicaga · November 1st, 2005, 11:03

I got a SureFire flashlight. This thing could light up heaven from the ramp. Very bright, lightweight, and small. Got it from www.stopoverstore.com. I'm hoping someday a Fed goes, "That isn't a D cell," so I can shine it in his face and say "but I thought it would be bright enough, no?" Ha, yeah just kidding.

blee256 · November 1st, 2005, 22:04

I got a surefire flashlight as well. I love it. Its small and space is a luxury i dont have in my flightcase. i think i got mine on ebay for like 25 or 30 bucks. it is definitly pricier than the 99 cent walmart special. But i think it was money well spent.

Chicaga, that would be pretty funny, tell me how that goes. I think surefire claims it will temporarily blind someone if flashed in their eyes.

e2, do you mean you guys have flashlights in addition to the emergency one in the flightdeck?

aloft · November 1st, 2005, 22:42

"Me three" on the Surefire. I paid $28-ish for it at an Army PX. Very bright beam and I like the nice, even lighting produced by the dimpled reflector, but it sucks batteries like no tomorrow and takes only those expensive odd-sized lithium 3-volt batteries.

ananoman · November 3rd, 2005, 23:42

Go to www.botachtactical.com and you can get a 20 pack of Sanyo batteries for $25. While you are there you can stock up on body bags, mine probes, and handcuffs.

Rocketman99 · November 4th, 2005, 08:34

Cruise, just suck it up and buy a Magbaton...I mean Maglite.

How's the line treatin ya?

Cruise · November 5th, 2005, 21:24

suck it up huh? I don't think there's enough room for a magbaton in my case....besides, it already weighs about 80 lbs....ok, not quit but it's a beast.

Sorry I haven't replied to the PM yet.......will do so soon....probably tomorrow. The line is great.....flying out of ITH and rackin' up the hours. You guys should have a blast in SCE....I did my undergrad at Penn State......if you have any questions about the area, I can probably help you.

Back to our regularly scheduled programming...........

Thanks to everyone for all the input about the batts/ flashlights.

aloft · November 6th, 2005, 03:58

Quote:

Originally Posted by ananoman

Go to www.botachtactical.com and you can get a 20 pack of Sanyo batteries for $25.

Great deal, thanks!

CapnJim · November 6th, 2005, 19:03

I have a 2 D cell Maglight.
Bright, bulletproof, and battery-friendly. Downside: Too Damn Big.

AP2B · November 7th, 2005, 11:50

I just recently read that regulation while perusing the FAR's and wondered that myself. Surfire, man that's the only way to go. I bought mine online from surfire.com and had them shipped directly to the desert. They do use a lot of juice but it's well worth it. I'm with FlyChicaga. No Fed could argue with that. I'm a fueler and when I'm airline side and a F/O is doing his walk around at night somtimes i'll illuminate the right main for him/her. They can pretty much check everything out under there on both sides. A pure and solid beam of white light. Can't beat it.

Cruise · November 8th, 2005, 00:14

Well, funny enough.......I got ramp checked today.

Holy crap, I was a little nervous to see if the FAA Inspector (he was only there to help

) was going to follow me on the walk-around. When I found out we were getting checked out, I went in the ready room to put new batts in my LED light....it's not a Surefire......but it's bright and I wanted it to be as bright as that little light could shine.

Although, think I'm gonna get a surefire soon.....had been checking them out prior to this post......need to do a little more price shopping first.

Well, it turns out he was only there to check out the de-icing equipment/ area and gave us a very quick look.....certificates/ medicals....then onto the flight deck and checked the logs w/ the captain. He never even looked at the outside of the plane......whew.

So, Chicaga.......I never did get the opportunity to stick my light in his face.....lol

pilot602 · November 8th, 2005, 18:20

I got a 1.5W led light at Target. Made by River Rock (or Rock River can't remember) it's "2x brighter than a standard flashlight). It's in a waterproof machined alumumnium case and runs an C cell batteries. Good for 9 hours of use. $24 bucks. C-Cells are hella cheaper than the lithiums the surefires need and run lionger. Not quite as bright as a Surefire but good enough for me.

November 1st, 2005, 08:12	#1
Cruise Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SYR, ABE Posts: 2,367	2 "D" cell or Equivalent??? I was wondering what people were using for the required flashlight? What is an equivalent light? Are they talking about candlepower or lumens, etc.... Has anyone every had any trouble w/ the Feds if they used a smaller, yet powerful light? With the advent of the LED lights, you can get a very bright light in a much smaller package. During INDOC, the instructor was saying that he uses a mini-light and has never had a problem w/ the Feds. Whadya think???

November 1st, 2005, 10:45	#4
BobDDuck Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Left Seat Posts: 5,736	Anybody know if it has to be on your person or just accessable in the aircraft. I asked and was told that it was in the cockpit and hence we didn't need to carry one. We have cheap walmart specials onboard and most crews just rely on those. __________________ TBJC08 The Gear Monkey The Gear Monkey Store

November 1st, 2005, 11:03	#5
FlyChicaga Old Skool Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Chicago, IL Posts: 4,833	I got a SureFire flashlight. This thing could light up heaven from the ramp. Very bright, lightweight, and small. Got it from www.stopoverstore.com. I'm hoping someday a Fed goes, "That isn't a D cell," so I can shine it in his face and say "but I thought it would be bright enough, no?" Ha, yeah just kidding. __________________ "Anyone can do the job when things are going right. In this business we play for keeps." Ernest K. Gann

November 1st, 2005, 22:04	#6
blee256 Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: lower canada Posts: 1,649	I got a surefire flashlight as well. I love it. Its small and space is a luxury i dont have in my flightcase. i think i got mine on ebay for like 25 or 30 bucks. it is definitly pricier than the 99 cent walmart special. But i think it was money well spent. Chicaga, that would be pretty funny, tell me how that goes. I think surefire claims it will temporarily blind someone if flashed in their eyes. e2, do you mean you guys have flashlights in addition to the emergency one in the flightdeck? __________________ According to a report by Goldman Sachs economists, "the most important contributor to higher profit margins over the past five years has been a decline in labor's share of national income."

November 1st, 2005, 22:42	#7
aloft Old Skool Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop Posts: 7,011	"Me three" on the Surefire. I paid $28-ish for it at an Army PX. Very bright beam and I like the nice, even lighting produced by the dimpled reflector, but it sucks batteries like no tomorrow and takes only those expensive odd-sized lithium 3-volt batteries. __________________ Commercial Pilot, ASEL/AMEL/IA 900+ TT/25 ME Mountain-qualified Search & Rescue/Disaster Relief Mission Pilot, Civil Air Patrol B.S., Psychology, Univ of Utah

November 1st, 2005, 10:00	#2
stevel Newbie Join Date: Oct 2005 Posts: 3	I believe equivalent refers to equivalent voltage of two D cell batteries. I could be mistaken, but I remember reading this somewhere.

November 1st, 2005, 10:00	#3
SFLAX Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: On the Road Posts: 177	I was told that the light needed to be powerful enough for you to see the highest surface, ie the tail. I carry my 2 D cell in my bag but use a small LED to do the walk around.

November 3rd, 2005, 23:42	#8
ananoman Senior Member Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 916	Go to www.botachtactical.com and you can get a 20 pack of Sanyo batteries for $25. While you are there you can stock up on body bags, mine probes, and handcuffs.

November 4th, 2005, 08:34	#9
Rocketman99 Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: On your left shoulder holding a pitchfork Posts: 1,017	Cruise, just suck it up and buy a Magbaton...I mean Maglite. How's the line treatin ya? __________________ NKAWTG...N! Colgan pays enough to keep you sullen and not mutinous. - Mel

November 5th, 2005, 21:24	#10
Cruise Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SYR, ABE Posts: 2,367	Yo Rocketman suck it up huh? I don't think there's enough room for a magbaton in my case....besides, it already weighs about 80 lbs....ok, not quit but it's a beast. Sorry I haven't replied to the PM yet.......will do so soon....probably tomorrow. The line is great.....flying out of ITH and rackin' up the hours. You guys should have a blast in SCE....I did my undergrad at Penn State......if you have any questions about the area, I can probably help you. Back to our regularly scheduled programming........... Thanks to everyone for all the input about the batts/ flashlights.

November 6th, 2005, 19:03	#12
CapnJim Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: G-town, Near D-town. In T-state... er... whatever Posts: 4,499	I have a 2 D cell Maglight. Bright, bulletproof, and battery-friendly. Downside: Too Damn Big.

November 7th, 2005, 11:50	#13
AP2B Senior Member Join Date: Jul 2005 Location: The IND SOC / TYQ Posts: 634	I just recently read that regulation while perusing the FAR's and wondered that myself. Surfire, man that's the only way to go. I bought mine online from surfire.com and had them shipped directly to the desert. They do use a lot of juice but it's well worth it. I'm with FlyChicaga. No Fed could argue with that. I'm a fueler and when I'm airline side and a F/O is doing his walk around at night somtimes i'll illuminate the right main for him/her. They can pretty much check everything out under there on both sides. A pure and solid beam of white light. Can't beat it.

November 8th, 2005, 00:14	#14
Cruise Old Skool Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: SYR, ABE Posts: 2,367	Wow Well, funny enough.......I got ramp checked today. Holy crap, I was a little nervous to see if the FAA Inspector (he was only there to help ) was going to follow me on the walk-around. When I found out we were getting checked out, I went in the ready room to put new batts in my LED light....it's not a Surefire......but it's bright and I wanted it to be as bright as that little light could shine. Although, think I'm gonna get a surefire soon.....had been checking them out prior to this post......need to do a little more price shopping first. Well, it turns out he was only there to check out the de-icing equipment/ area and gave us a very quick look.....certificates/ medicals....then onto the flight deck and checked the logs w/ the captain. He never even looked at the outside of the plane......whew. So, Chicaga.......I never did get the opportunity to stick my light in his face.....lol

November 8th, 2005, 18:20	#15
pilot602 Old Skool Join Date: Oct 2001 Location: who haa Posts: 3,750	I got a 1.5W led light at Target. Made by River Rock (or Rock River can't remember) it's "2x brighter than a standard flashlight). It's in a waterproof machined alumumnium case and runs an C cell batteries. Good for 9 hours of use. $24 bucks. C-Cells are hella cheaper than the lithiums the surefires need and run lionger. Not quite as bright as a Surefire but good enough for me. __________________ .......................... p i l o t 6 0 2 insert something witty, here

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