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April 5th, 2005, 09:20
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,008
|  TSA Jumpseat
I heard a bad nasty rumor around the pilot lounge that TSA is seeking jumpseat access for their "agents" - has anyone else heard or can confirm this info?? It'll be a cold day down south before they ever sit on my jumpseat! It's amazing how fast you can drain the O2 to below the min required for 3 crewmembers. Jason |
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April 5th, 2005, 13:03
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| Agent Smith  | Re: TSA Jumpseat
I haven't heard anything, but I can go check in the chief pilot's office as I've got to go in there anyway for a recurrent CD. That would really suck. I don't mind ACI's (Air Carrier Inspectors), but it's a pain when you've got a ASI (Non-flying Air Safety Inspector) looking over your shoulder when he really doesn't know what he's looking at. Now a TSA agent? Geez, leave the jumpseat open for a crewmember trying to get to/from work/vacation. I can't see any reason to grant the TSA access to the jumpseat. Unless, of course the TSA is trying to use the 'free' nature of the jumpseat to avoid having to pay to shuttle agents between airports. |
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April 5th, 2005, 13:35
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Sep 2001 Location: Inside your OODA loop
Posts: 7,029
| Re: TSA Jumpseat
What sort of "agents"? Air marshals are one thing, pax screeners another ENTIRELY.
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April 5th, 2005, 13:46
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| Moderator  Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: The Looney Bin
Posts: 9,412
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[ QUOTE ] What sort of "agents"? Air marshals are one thing, pax screeners another ENTIRELY. [/ QUOTE ] Exactly. Pax screeners have no place in the cockpit of an airliner! |
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April 5th, 2005, 14:22
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,008
| Re: TSA Jumpseat
[ QUOTE ] What sort of "agents"? Air marshals are one thing, pax screeners another ENTIRELY. [/ QUOTE ] As far as I know there is only one kind of TSA Agent - FAM's are a completley different program under a different branch of the government - I believe the FAM program is still under the US Immigration and Customs Enforcement. But I could be wrong - it has happened before......once back in '87. Jason |
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April 5th, 2005, 14:30
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,008
| Re: TSA Jumpseat
Ok I just looked it up - they are both under the Department of Homeland Security but the FAM program is part of ICE not TSA. While the TSA has absolute power(meaning no oversight/appeals process) over my career they will never be on my jumpseat. FAMs can sit there any time they want although that would probably never happen - the whole point of their job is to ride in the cabin. Jason |
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April 5th, 2005, 22:36
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Atlanta
Posts: 2,205
| Re: TSA Jumpseat
As bad as they are they dont need to be screeners either...
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April 6th, 2005, 15:38
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| Senior Member  Join Date: Jul 2001 Location: Houston, TX
Posts: 1,021
| Re: TSA Jumpseat
[ QUOTE ] amazing how fast you can drain the O2 to below the min required for 3 crewmembers. Jason [/ QUOTE ] "I'm sorry, this flight is weight restricted..." |
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April 10th, 2005, 17:50
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| Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2000 Location: Cincinnati, OH
Posts: 1,008
| Re: TSA Jumpseat
[ QUOTE ] [ QUOTE ] amazing how fast you can drain the O2 to below the min required for 3 crewmembers. Jason [/ QUOTE ] "I'm sorry, this flight is weight restricted..." [/ QUOTE ] Yeah that is a good one too but we have central load controllers and ACARS so that would be a tough one to pull off. Jason |
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April 10th, 2005, 18:27
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| Old Skool  Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Nomadic...World Wide Boobie Bungalow Bouncer
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Looks liek TSA isnt going to be around anyways. So maybe youll be taking off with "Globe" Security people up front with ya  |
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