pinnacle?

Skyway · January 30th, 2010, 23:58

Anyone know whats up with Pinnacle lately? I accidentally applied to them via airlineapps for some reason and I recieved any email from Ms Cunningham in HR stating thanks for submitting an application and that I would not be considered for an interview until I completed my ATP written. Is that just formal stuff or is something possibly in the works? I guess I just need to go ahead and get that ATP written done now, if nothing else this just gives me alittle motivation to finally get it out the way.

TaleSpin · January 31st, 2010, 22:32

I got the same response. They require the ATP written. I am doing the same - study and get it over with.

sorb555 · January 31st, 2010, 22:54

What are there Mins?

cencal83406 · January 31st, 2010, 23:10

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Originally Posted by sorb555

What are there Mins?

An English degree. You apparently don't qualify.

ChristheCFII · January 31st, 2010, 23:21

Zing!

There= "Are there any job openings at that airline?"
Their= "Their standards are pretty high."
They're= "Like every other airline in this country, they're not hiring right now."

TheresaPilot · February 1st, 2010, 11:51

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristheCFII

Zing!

There= "Are there any job openings at that airline?"
Their= "Their standards are pretty high."
They're= "Like every other airline in this country, they're not hiring right now."

GreenDayPilot · February 1st, 2010, 14:32

Quote:

Originally Posted by ChristheCFII

Zing!

There= "Are there any job openings at that airline?"
Their= "Their standards are pretty high."
They're= "Like every other airline in this country, they're not hiring right now."

Don't get me started on that!... it's one of my biggest pet peeves when people misspell small words... haha

GreenDayPilot · February 1st, 2010, 14:33

Wait, why is this thread on the "Job Available" section?

fly6785 · February 22nd, 2010, 15:44

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Originally Posted by Skyway

I accidentally applied to them via airlineapps for some reason .

How do you accidentally apply for a job???? Would you have "accidentally" taken the interview if offered???

I'm really just giving you a hard time but good luck!!

JOEFRIDAY2 · February 22nd, 2010, 15:58

For the past several years Pinnacle has required the written ATP to be passed with an 80% or better in order to get an interview. That is nothing new.

Pinnacle has not announced any job openings yet although there have been some signals that could indicate that they will need to start hiring some first officers in the near future.

I would also expect the minimums to not be less than the published minimums for Colgan on the initial hiring.

cencal83406 · February 22nd, 2010, 16:06

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOEFRIDAY2

For the past several years Pinnacle has required the written ATP to be passed with an 80% or better in order to get an interview. That is nothing new.

Pinnacle has not announced any job openings yet although there have been some signals that could indicate that they will need to start hiring some first officers in the near future.

I would also expect the minimums to not be less than the published minimums for Colgan on the initial hiring.

Because their written takes some questions from the ATP, some from high speed aerodynamics, some from Jepp plates, etc., and requires you to get a 70% or better...

CRJDriver · February 22nd, 2010, 16:12

Quote:

Originally Posted by cencal83406

An English degree. You apparently don't qualify.

Quote:

Originally Posted by cencal83406

Because they're written takes some questions from the ATP, some from high speed aerodynamics, some from Jepp plates, etc., and requires you to get a 70% or better...

FAIL!!

fisher37 · February 24th, 2010, 18:04

HAHAHAHAHA

91-3A · February 27th, 2010, 17:42

Quote:

Originally Posted by CRJDriver

FAIL!!

...how about emPHAsis on the wrong sylLAble...?

ctab5060X · February 27th, 2010, 18:29

Doubt anything will happen in the near future...

Displacing 14 CAs and 20 FOs from ATL...

kellwolf · February 27th, 2010, 22:38

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctab5060X

Doubt anything will happen in the near future...

Displacing 14 CAs and 20 FOs from ATL...

:yeathat: They'll borrow from all the other bases until they have to cancel flights in all the hubs due to crews. It's already happening in DTW and MEM. With the displacements outta ATL, they're gonna be on shoestrings there, believe it or not. They already displaced a decent chunk of FOs out of there a few months back. This is ANOTHER 20. Who knows what's gonna happen with MSP, but I doubt we'll see any growth slots there. DTW is likely gonna see an increase in number of total CA and FO slots from this displacement, and if they do what makes sense, MEM should see an increase in total slots, too. At least they should. I know of at least 5 flights in the past week that canceled due to no CA or FO. I've already been JMed on my day off on Tuesday.

If we hire, it'll likely be a day late and a dollar short. I think they realized we need to hire, and this gets people in the seats quicker than hiring. It's a band aid fix at best. If they go with the plan of not hiring at all in 2010, we're gonna be in a world of hurt.

JOEFRIDAY2 · February 28th, 2010, 04:47

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellwolf

:If we hire, it'll likely be a day late and a dollar short. I think they realized we need to hire, and this gets people in the seats quicker than hiring. It's a band aid fix at best. If they go with the plan of not hiring at all in 2010, we're gonna be in a world of hurt.

If you look at the industry right now, you are starting to see some regional airlines hiring and recalling. Those are the companies that have proper planning and can see where this thing is going.

I believe the work rule changes will catch the airlines if congress is able to get the changes in place (as promised) this year.

If the work rule changes are put in place the airlines are going to need 30-40% more pilots and flight attendants to fly the same routes.

If the work rule changes go through then Pinnacle (and just about every Regional) must hire pilots in 2010 or they will be parking a bunch of aircraft.

kellwolf · February 28th, 2010, 11:13

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOEFRIDAY2

If you look at the industry right now, you are starting to see some regional airlines hiring and recalling. Those are the companies that have proper planning and can see where this thing is going.

I believe the work rule changes will catch the airlines if congress is able to get the changes in place (as promised) this year.

If the work rule changes are put in place the airlines are going to need 30-40% more pilots and flight attendants to fly the same routes.

If the work rule changes go through then Pinnacle (and just about every Regional) must hire pilots in 2010 or they will be parking a bunch of aircraft.

Even without the work rule changes, we're gonna need people. We've had a lot of guys either actually find other flying jobs or just say "screw this, it's not worth it." Even in this stagnant industry, I move up about 2 seniority spots a month. I've moved up 21 seniority spots in a year. That's saying something being on the CA side in a period where hardly anyone is hiring and pilots are still on furlough. The guys that used to get 17 days off are now down to 11 or 12, and they're pretty hacked off about that. When you're bidding #10 in base and you're getting the same amount of days off as the guy bidding #90, it tends to rub you the wrong way. Instead of hiring, they've just been working everyone as hard as they can until they get to the 100 hours in a month. Plenty of FOs are over 90 hours. In fact, I'm reserve, and I'M gonna top 90 hours this month. Only 2 hours of that is a deadhead, too. Block hours for me are actually about the same. Thanks to our "15 minute rule," for a while there my block hours were MORE than my credit.

If the rest rules do get changed this year, Pinnacle's gonna need to get in front of it fast, or we're gonna be looking at mass cancellations due to timed out crews. Problem is, it takes a couple of months to get an FO trained if you're pushing hard. They'll wait until the last possible minute to hire. By then, it may be too late.

HVYMETALDRVR · February 28th, 2010, 14:19

Yeah my buddy is there he confirms some of this...

accidently getting an interview and a job? hah If I'm that lucky then I swear I'm gonna get on the intercom and tell everyone that I'm not a pilot but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

JOEFRIDAY2 · February 28th, 2010, 15:00

Ninety (90) hours on reserve would suck. It does not have to be this way.

kellwolf · March 1st, 2010, 10:22

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOEFRIDAY2

Ninety (90) hours on reserve would suck. It does not have to be this way.

It shouldn't. Reserves should be there to cover irops, sick calls and missed commutes. Instead, we're covering open time because everyone else is either illegal to pick it up, burned out or too tired to do it. So, they give it to the reserves. Then when you get sick calls, broken airplanes or guys miss their commutes b/c our non rev benefits got shanked, they have to either junior man or extend a line holder. I'm still waiting to see who my FO is gonna be tonight. The guy that had on it was a lineholder getting extended to cover it. He told them where they could stick the trip, and last I checked, I didn't have an FO. It only adds humor to the fact that whoever winds up on the trip, BOTH of us will be flying on our day off.....

ctab5060X · March 1st, 2010, 10:53

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellwolf

It shouldn't. Reserves should be there to cover irops, sick calls and missed commutes. Instead, we're covering open time because everyone else is either illegal to pick it up, burned out or too tired to do it. So, they give it to the reserves. Then when you get sick calls, broken airplanes or guys miss their commutes b/c our non rev benefits got shanked, they have to either junior man or extend a line holder. I'm still waiting to see who my FO is gonna be tonight. The guy that had on it was a lineholder getting extended to cover it. He told them where they could stick the trip, and last I checked, I didn't have an FO. It only adds humor to the fact that whoever winds up on the trip, BOTH of us will be flying on our day off.....

Where are you off to tonight? They called me last night trying to Junior Assign and the number of trips they had was unreal...

JOEFRIDAY2 · March 1st, 2010, 12:43

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctab5060X

Where are you off to tonight? They called me last night trying to Junior Assign and the number of trips they had was unreal...

End of month out of time issues again?

kellwolf · March 1st, 2010, 14:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by JOEFRIDAY2

End of month out of time issues again?

No, this has been going on all month.

Wes, I'm going to JAX. They STILL have the same FO on there according to CrewTrac. Maybe they didn't get the "I'm not doing it" memo yet.

ctab5060X · March 1st, 2010, 15:41

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellwolf

No, this has been going on all month.

And all can expect the beatings to continue!

Quote:

Originally Posted by kellwolf

Wes, I'm going to JAX. They STILL have the same FO on there according to CrewTrac. Maybe they didn't get the "I'm not doing it" memo yet.

That is hilarious! On the message they left last night, they had 3 highspeeds and a couple of overnights that would end up as 3 or 4 day trips.

January 31st, 2010, 22:32	#2
TaleSpin Newbie Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: NYC Posts: 12	Re: pinnacle? I got the same response. They require the ATP written. I am doing the same - study and get it over with. __________________ CFI-CFII-MEI-AGI-IGI

January 31st, 2010, 22:54	#3
sorb555 Newbie Join Date: Jan 2010 Location: Gibbstown Posts: 3	Re: pinnacle? What are there Mins?

January 31st, 2010, 23:21	#5
ChristheCFII Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Phoenix Posts: 107	Re: pinnacle? Zing! There= "Are there any job openings at that airline?" Their= "Their standards are pretty high." They're= "Like every other airline in this country, they're not hiring right now."

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February 24th, 2010, 18:04	#13
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January 30th, 2010, 23:58	#1
Skyway Junior Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Location: Richmond Posts: 41	pinnacle? Anyone know whats up with Pinnacle lately? I accidentally applied to them via airlineapps for some reason and I recieved any email from Ms Cunningham in HR stating thanks for submitting an application and that I would not be considered for an interview until I completed my ATP written. Is that just formal stuff or is something possibly in the works? I guess I just need to go ahead and get that ATP written done now, if nothing else this just gives me alittle motivation to finally get it out the way.

February 22nd, 2010, 15:58	#10
JOEFRIDAY2 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Posts: 118	Re: pinnacle? For the past several years Pinnacle has required the written ATP to be passed with an 80% or better in order to get an interview. That is nothing new. Pinnacle has not announced any job openings yet although there have been some signals that could indicate that they will need to start hiring some first officers in the near future. I would also expect the minimums to not be less than the published minimums for Colgan on the initial hiring.

February 27th, 2010, 18:29	#15
ctab5060X Old Skool Join Date: May 2007 Location: Horn Lake, MS Posts: 2,542 Blog Entries: 2	Re: pinnacle? Doubt anything will happen in the near future... Displacing 14 CAs and 20 FOs from ATL... __________________ VP, Aircraft Procurement

February 28th, 2010, 14:19	#19
HVYMETALDRVR Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2008 Location: Miami Posts: 291	Re: pinnacle? Yeah my buddy is there he confirms some of this... accidently getting an interview and a job? hah If I'm that lucky then I swear I'm gonna get on the intercom and tell everyone that I'm not a pilot but I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express last night...

February 28th, 2010, 15:00	#20
JOEFRIDAY2 Junior Member Join Date: May 2008 Location: Ft Lauderdale Posts: 118	Re: pinnacle? Ninety (90) hours on reserve would suck. It does not have to be this way.

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