Headline: FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (AP)

NewsBot · November 4th, 2009, 18:35

AP - The Northwest Airlines pilots who overshot Minneapolis are part of a larger problem — eroding professionalism among commercial airline pilots, Federal Aviation Administration Administrator Randy Babbitt said Wednesday.

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Doug Taylor · November 4th, 2009, 18:45

What was that line from "Goodfellas"?

subpilot · November 4th, 2009, 19:36

They pay fast food wages and then expect astronaut professionalism??? Really???

mrivc211 · November 4th, 2009, 19:57

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Originally Posted by subpilot

They pay fast food wages and then expect astronaut professionalism??? Really???

Spot on. Not condoning the behavior, just saying, you get what you pay for. All the Ivy league puke CEO's can lie and come up with every excuse. And this Randy guy, I'm sure he was around during much different times when they were paying a livable wage and had a decent amount of time at home.

Doug Taylor · November 4th, 2009, 20:11

He's probably forgetting about how widespread the industry has been demoralized since he was last in it.

I'm not condoning unprofessionalism, but treating (and compensating) the airline industries highest skilled professionals like Subway Sandwich "Artists" and then stating that we have a professionalism problem without also talking about the causal effects is hollow.

Yes, some of us have professionalism issues, MOST of us do not and all of the legislation in the world and DALPA-esque "Recovery Compacts" aren't going to change it.

Oops, I think I did it again.

29.92inHg · November 4th, 2009, 20:27

I love how EVERYTHING is a sign of a larger problem. Too young, Too old, too inexperienced, or we like to look at porn on our laptops in the cockpit, we were never trained how to recover a stall, or there is no professionalism, and this somehow becomes everyone that touches an airplane. What happened to the simple realization that every once in a while someone will act like an idiot. It doesn't mean that the FAR's have to be immediately rewritten, or that there needs to be hundreds of pages written in congress. Sometimes people do stupid things. Its a fact of life.

Don't get me wrong, there are things that can and should be changed, but I just don't get how every little thing creates a stereotype and shows a industry wide deficiency. We are going to knee jerk our way off a cliff. The government seems to be full of a bunch of self indulgent drama queens.

Okay I feel better now...Sorry about that

ThatOtherDude · November 5th, 2009, 12:57

Good thread so far.

Rudabega · November 11th, 2009, 18:06

Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

November 4th, 2009, 18:35	#1
NewsBot Old Skool Join Date: Jan 2005 Posts: 2,162	FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (AP) AP - The Northwest Airlines pilots who overshot Minneapolis are part of a larger problem — eroding professionalism among commercial airline pilots, Federal Aviation Administration Administrator Randy Babbitt said Wednesday. Full Article...

November 4th, 2009, 18:45	#2
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 50,355 Blog Entries: 1	Re: FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (A What was that line from "Goodfellas"? __________________ Doug Taylor PPL-SEL PA-38 Typed

November 4th, 2009, 19:36	#3
subpilot Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2005 Location: Bakersfield, CA Posts: 1,195	Re: FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (A They pay fast food wages and then expect astronaut professionalism??? Really??? __________________ RIP Ben You will forever be remembered!

November 4th, 2009, 20:11	#5
Doug Taylor Agent Smith Join Date: Dec 1969 Location: KSDL Posts: 50,355 Blog Entries: 1	Re: FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (A He's probably forgetting about how widespread the industry has been demoralized since he was last in it. I'm not condoning unprofessionalism, but treating (and compensating) the airline industries highest skilled professionals like Subway Sandwich "Artists" and then stating that we have a professionalism problem without also talking about the causal effects is hollow. Yes, some of us have professionalism issues, MOST of us do not and all of the legislation in the world and DALPA-esque "Recovery Compacts" aren't going to change it. Oops, I think I did it again. __________________ Doug Taylor PPL-SEL PA-38 Typed

November 4th, 2009, 20:27	#6
29.92inHg Junior Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: Northern VA Posts: 276	Re: FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (A I love how EVERYTHING is a sign of a larger problem. Too young, Too old, too inexperienced, or we like to look at porn on our laptops in the cockpit, we were never trained how to recover a stall, or there is no professionalism, and this somehow becomes everyone that touches an airplane. What happened to the simple realization that every once in a while someone will act like an idiot. It doesn't mean that the FAR's have to be immediately rewritten, or that there needs to be hundreds of pages written in congress. Sometimes people do stupid things. Its a fact of life. Don't get me wrong, there are things that can and should be changed, but I just don't get how every little thing creates a stereotype and shows a industry wide deficiency. We are going to knee jerk our way off a cliff. The government seems to be full of a bunch of self indulgent drama queens. Okay I feel better now...Sorry about that

November 5th, 2009, 12:57	#7
ThatOtherDude Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: Newark Posts: 65	Re: FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (A Good thread so far.

November 11th, 2009, 18:06	#8
Rudabega Newbie Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: Fort Collins, CO Posts: 6	Re: FAA chief: Pilots must refocus on professionalism (A Pay peanuts, get monkeys.

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