Anyone not make it past their PEPC?

[deshazo19]

I'm sure this has been asked before, but has anyone gone to a PEPC and not been given a tentative offer at the end of the day? Has anyone been given the tentative offer and had it withdrawn before going to OKC? Basically, has anyone attended a PEPC and not gotten a job? If so, what was the reason?

[Philip]

I'm sure tons fail the medical, but as far as the actual interview, my guy couldn't give a CRAP what I was talking about

[Acey97]

Tons fail the medical? What all did they do during the medical portion besides vision and hearing?

[Philip]

Originally Posted by Acey97

Tons fail the medical? What all did they do during the medical portion besides vision and hearing?

probably not tons in volume of applicants but of the number that don't make it past the PEPC, I'm sure the vast majority are medical.

hearing, vision, blood pressure, EKG, dip your pee for kidney problems, medical history, that's about it.

[justme62]

Originally Posted by Acey97

Tons fail the medical? What all did they do during the medical portion besides vision and hearing?

Drug test.

[Acey97]

Ok just checking to see how thorough this was. I hate giving blood and stuff like that.

[KindaRadley]

I almost didn't pass my vision test... they put down that I had 20/30 near vision in my left eye and was going to make me go for more testing... quick thinking on my part blamed the lighting in the room and asked to be tested in a dark room so that I could focus on that line a little better because of the "glare" of the overhead lighting... luckily I was able to read the bottom line on my second try and they put me down as 20/20.

I didn't realize you had to have PERFECT 20/20 vision to pass the medical. Time for me to go get a new pair of glasses!

[justme62]

Originally Posted by KindaRadley

I didn't realize you had to have PERFECT 20/20 vision to pass the medical. Time for me to go get a new pair of glasses!

Your vision needs to be correctable to 20/20 (glasses/contacts). Which reminds me I need to go get a new 'script.

[Philip]

Originally Posted by KindaRadley

I almost didn't pass my vision test... they put down that I had 20/30 near vision in my left eye and was going to make me go for more testing... quick thinking on my part blamed the lighting in the room and asked to be tested in a dark room so that I could focus on that line a little better because of the "glare" of the overhead lighting... luckily I was able to read the bottom line on my second try and they put me down as 20/20.

I didn't realize you had to have PERFECT 20/20 vision to pass the medical. Time for me to go get a new pair of glasses!

one of my eyes is 20/20, both eyes are 20/20, and my right eye is like 20/15. I have a BITCH of a time getting glasses that work well enough to read those lines easily. I think some of it has to do with those test machines and the lighting.

Also if your blood pressure is boarderline take some slow deep breaths and relax. I'm on meds for mine and I still had trouble getting it down.

No "turn and cough" like the pilot meds, that's a welcome difference.

also, the drug test is independant of the medical, for the medical exam they don't drug test... just dip your pee for problems. They do the drug test just to do it I guess, unless this is another differenct between an ATC and a 2nd or 1st class pilot medical.

[KindaRadley]

Originally Posted by Philip

No "turn and cough" like the pilot meds, that's a welcome difference.

The doc made me lower my drawers and boxers and stuck his hands down my boxers to my crotch and made me turn and cough... I didn't have to expose anything.... am I the only person that he did this to!?!

I'm dead serious about this...

[nathanw]

Originally Posted by KindaRadley

The doc made me lower my drawers and boxers and stuck his hands down my boxers to my crotch and made me turn and cough... I didn't have to expose anything.... am I the only person that he did this to!?!

I'm dead serious about this...

Maybe he thought you were cute...

[Sooner1ATC]

Originally Posted by KindaRadley

The doc made me lower my drawers and boxers and stuck his hands down my boxers to my crotch and made me turn and cough... I didn't have to expose anything.... am I the only person that he did this to!?!

I'm dead serious about this...

Did he offer you a smoke after he was done? just kidding and no you aren't b/c I got the same treatment and kinda felt how you did until I read your post....

[slayer]

Originally Posted by nathanw

Maybe he thought you were cute...

LOL!

[propcircles]

Was this your doctor??

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[KindaRadley]

Originally Posted by Sooner1ATC

Did he offer you a smoke after he was done? just kidding and no you aren't b/c I got the same treatment and kinda felt how you did until I read your post....

No, he actually offered to buy me a drink!

LoL Propcircles!!!

[pmatc]

Originally Posted by propcircles

Was this your doctor??

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Nice! "You need to come down to the cellar, I have a whole freezer full of propcircles."

[pm577]

Originally Posted by KindaRadley

The doc made me lower my drawers and boxers and stuck his hands down my boxers to my crotch and made me turn and cough... I didn't have to expose anything.... am I the only person that he did this to!?!

I'm dead serious about this...

Yes, I was subjected to this as well...

I got a bit ticklish when the lady was putting on my EKG electrodes/stickies. Just not really comfortable having someone random touching my chest.

As others have said, the hearing test was questionable since the room was NOT silent. The gentleman started my test, then walked over to someone else to start their test. Well this means I was trying to listen to tones/beeps WHILE the man is making noise walking and setting up equipment.

I also had to walk in a straight line, heel-to-toe, with my eyes closed. He checked my reflexes and many of my muscles (for example, he would hold an arm and tell me to push against it.)

[jamcan162]

Originally Posted by KindaRadley

The doc made me lower my drawers and boxers and stuck his hands down my boxers to my crotch and made me turn and cough... I didn't have to expose anything.... am I the only person that he did this to!?!

I'm dead serious about this...

Prolly did it to all of us. Luckily, I got a female doc...

[Philip]

Originally Posted by jamcan162

Prolly did it to all of us. Luckily, I got a female doc...

nope

[propcircles]

Other than who got their hoohoos grabbed and why, I'm still interested in the original question-- anyone not make it past the pepc?

(I suppose they probably wouldn't hang out here anymore, but ya never know)

[deshazo19]

Originally Posted by propcircles

Other than who got their hoohoos grabbed and why, I'm still interested in the original question-- anyone not make it past the pepc?

(I suppose they probably wouldn't hang out here anymore, but ya never know)

Yeah, I am concerned about the hearing test, but my main concern is the interview. I'm in quite a bit of debt and I still owe on 2007 income taxes. It sounds like this won't even come up in the interview, but is there the possibility of getting a tentative offer, them discovering something like this after the PEPC and then withdrawing the offer? I have a clean criminal record.

I'm just worried about them bringing me this far, getting to OKC, and them deciding I was pretty irresponsible in my younger years and taking me out.

[utahaviator]

Originally Posted by deshazo19

Yeah, I am concerned about the hearing test, but my main concern is the interview. I'm in quite a bit of debt and I still owe on 2007 income taxes. It sounds like this won't even come up in the interview, but is there the possibility of getting a tentative offer, them discovering something like this after the PEPC and then withdrawing the offer? I have a clean criminal record.

I'm just worried about them bringing me this far, getting to OKC, and them deciding I was pretty irresponsible in my younger years and taking me out.

From my vast knowledge of the FAA and the PEPC proceedings...(which BTW is VERY VERY limited... )...I don't think you should have too much to worry about as long as you are truthful in all of your answers. The "money" issue won't come up in the interview. It would come up with the background investigation. If they ask, don't lie! Tell them your circumstances. They are usually MORE than happy to help you out and be understanding. I currently have an undisclosed 6 figure amount of debt from student loans, credit cards, etc...and yet I still received a Secret clearance with the Department of Defense. They did a little bit of deeper searching, and I had to have an interview with a kind gentleman from the interviewing agency, but in the end it all worked out. HONESTY HONESTY HONESTY!!

[pm577]

Originally Posted by deshazo19

Yeah, I am concerned about the hearing test, but my main concern is the interview. I'm in quite a bit of debt and I still owe on 2007 income taxes. It sounds like this won't even come up in the interview, but is there the possibility of getting a tentative offer, them discovering something like this after the PEPC and then withdrawing the offer? I have a clean criminal record.

I'm just worried about them bringing me this far, getting to OKC, and them deciding I was pretty irresponsible in my younger years and taking me out.

You'll receive the final offer letter before you go to OKC. Therefore you shouldn't have too much to worry about. Just don't tell your current employer that you've "got the job" until you receive the FOL in hand.

I'm nervously waiting for the FOL, so many of us are in the same boat.

[Cheezypoof]

Yah that walking around during the hearing bothered me as well. Every foot step he took was distracting and sounded like thunder. I know it must be hard to sit all day, but with jobs on the line its a big deal.

[Philip]

Originally Posted by Cheezypoof

Yah that walking around during the hearing bothered me as well. Every foot step he took was distracting and sounded like thunder. I know it must be hard to sit all day, but with jobs on the line its a big deal.

I wonder what the numbers mean, mine were all 0's and a couple 5's. I was worried I was deaf.

I could hear my own heartbeat louder than some of those tones, lol