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[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by jayzee510

anyone know much about MSY or any other airports in Louisiana? just curious. i haven't heard (read) anyone say (write) anything about that area in all the forums.... ??? do we exist down here below sea level?

Free Wi-Fi No Smoking inside!

[reedo11]

Originally Posted by jayzee510

anyone know much about MSY or any other airports in Louisiana? just curious. i haven't heard (read) anyone say (write) anything about that area in all the forums.... ??? do we exist down here below sea level?

I'm putting in for it. Thats about all I know

[ATC Hopeful]

Just got my AT-SAT score. 100!!!!!!!!!!!

[atchopefully]

Hey All,

I am scheduled to take the AT-SAT on 7/16/08. I have been cramming in as much ATST and Scan portions of the test!. I was wondering if anyone can give me a little insight to the Letter Factory portion. In the real test do the letters have to be in alphabetical order or do you do like the CD test and just fill up the boxes! Are there any good strategies I.E. like keep as many spaces under the belts open or full? Someone metioned in this post or another like it that when the letters start to slow down is when you should prepare for a question to pop up!
Any help would be appreciated thanks in advance. I am sooooo nervous

[Victor]

Got the Score today 92.9...I thought I did horrible, but I am happy with that Score!

[K-Dog]

Originally Posted by atchopefully

Hey All,

I am scheduled to take the AT-SAT on 7/16/08. I have been cramming in as much ATST and Scan portions of the test!. I was wondering if anyone can give me a little insight to the Letter Factory portion. In the real test do the letters have to be in alphabetical order or do you do like the CD test and just fill up the boxes! Are there any good strategies I.E. like keep as many spaces under the belts open or full? Someone metioned in this post or another like it that when the letters start to slow down is when you should prepare for a question to pop up!
Any help would be appreciated thanks in advance. I am sooooo nervous

In the real test you can't keep slots open or full. You have to have the exact number of boxes there that you need. The computer won't let you store extra boxes there. Also, if you miss doing something you are supposed to do, like place letters order boxes or call quality control, the computer will do it for you. The rules are explained very well and you will have practice runs before the actual test.

[chichi]

Originally Posted by atchopefully

Hey All,

I am scheduled to take the AT-SAT on 7/16/08. I have been cramming in as much ATST and Scan portions of the test!. I was wondering if anyone can give me a little insight to the Letter Factory portion. In the real test do the letters have to be in alphabetical order or do you do like the CD test and just fill up the boxes! Are there any good strategies I.E. like keep as many spaces under the belts open or full? Someone metioned in this post or another like it that when the letters start to slow down is when you should prepare for a question to pop up!
Any help would be appreciated thanks in advance. I am sooooo nervous

Just got home from taking the test... Letter Factory wasn't too bad... you can't put a box out until you actually need it and you just click on the belt and then the box in order to put the letter in the box. There is no dragging. The directions are insanely detailed and it's slightly different than the Green Book, but you'll be fine. When you start to notice they're giving you fewer letters, look at everything on the screen - how many boxes are there (and their colors), what letters are on the belts, what letters that are not on the belts you would need to fill the boxes, etc. It all works out so that you won't drop any letters (unless you make a mistake, but then they put it in the box for you and deduct points).

The scan portion was much easier than on the CD... the planes moved slightly slower and they moved constantly, rather than the annoying refresh-like thing the CD does (can't think of another way to explain it). The ATST portion was pretty simple... you have a headset and you have to make sure the pilot reads back the correct instructions. You also hear the crashes in the headset... the kid next to me had his volume way up and he must have crashed about 10 planes. It was also kind of annoying hearing "roger" coming from every corner of the room (I'd say we had about 20 people), so I kept my volume down.

Anyway, like I said, I just took it today... so if you want to know something, ask now or it'll be gone tomorrow

[MrBucket]

Originally Posted by chichi

It was also kind of annoying hearing "roger" coming from every corner of the room

I said the exact same thing. It was very distracting.
I know someones going to say "well, if that bothered you then maybe this isn't the job for you..." Enough already. I'm just talking about in a testing atmosphere the headphones are quite loud.

So how do you think you did?

[chichi]

Originally Posted by MrBucket

I said the exact same thing. It was very distracting.
I know someones going to say "well, if that bothered you then maybe this isn't the job for you..." Enough already. I'm just talking about in a testing atmosphere the headphones are quite loud.

So how do you think you did?

I took all my breaks and finished around 1:45... I think I was the third person to leave. Like many people, I have mixed feelings about it. I wasn't as nervous as I expected to be and now the waiting for a score is already getting to me. I really have absolutely no idea how I did... I do know, however, that the analogies killed me and I'm glad that was the last part.

[IrishGuy]

Originally Posted by atchopefully

Hey All,

I am scheduled to take the AT-SAT on 7/16/08. I have been cramming in as much ATST and Scan portions of the test!. I was wondering if anyone can give me a little insight to the Letter Factory portion. In the real test do the letters have to be in alphabetical order or do you do like the CD test and just fill up the boxes! Are there any good strategies I.E. like keep as many spaces under the belts open or full? Someone metioned in this post or another like it that when the letters start to slow down is when you should prepare for a question to pop up!
Any help would be appreciated thanks in advance. I am sooooo nervous

I think some already answered this but I'll try and add a bit more.

Here are some differences from what I can remember:

1. The belts / letters do not move at the same rates. There will be questions on this such as: what was the fastest moving belt?

2. The letters do not always show up on the same belt. (i.e. the letter A may show up on belt D)

3. When you click a colored box, it automatically places it in the next available space.

4. You cannot have more boxes than are needed. If you only have a red A and a green D, you can only have 1 red box and 1 green box.

5. The test version wants you to grab the box you need as soon as possible.

6. You just click on the belt you need to pick up the letter, not the letter itself. This saves valuable time.

7. You must always place the letter in the box that's closest to being full. For example, if you have an A and a B in a green box, an A in another green box, and a green C comes down the belt, you are required to put that C in the box that has both A and B.

8. The letters will begin to flash when they're available.

9. The belts in the test don't move nearly as fast.

10. The test colors are purple, orange and green.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong as it's been several days since I took the test.

[chichi]

IrishGuy seems to have covered all the differences I can think of. Don't stress too much over the Letter Factory. This part had the longest set of instructions and practice runs. We got something like 9 practice runs before the real thing started.

[BoomerSooner77]

Originally Posted by chichi

IrishGuy seems to have covered all the differences I can think of. Don't stress too much over the Letter Factory. This part had the longest set of instructions and practice runs. We got something like 9 practice runs before the real thing started.

The Letter Factory is the spawn of all that is unholy!

[Barty]

Originally Posted by IrishGuy

I think some already answered this but I'll try and add a bit more.

Here are some differences from what I can remember:

1. The belts / letters do not move at the same rates. There will be questions on this such as: what was the fastest moving belt?

2. The letters do not always show up on the same belt. (i.e. the letter A may show up on belt D)

3. When you click a colored box, it automatically places it in the next available space.

4. You cannot have more boxes than are needed. If you only have a red A and a green D, you can only have 1 red box and 1 green box.

5. The test version wants you to grab the box you need as soon as possible.

6. You just click on the belt you need to pick up the letter, not the letter itself. This saves valuable time.

7. You must always place the letter in the box that's closest to being full. For example, if you have an A and a B in a green box, an A in another green box, and a green C comes down the belt, you are required to put that C in the box that has both A and B.

8. The letters will begin to flash when they're available.

9. The belts in the test don't move nearly as fast.

10. The test colors are purple, orange and green.

Someone correct me if I'm wrong as it's been several days since I took the test.

You pretty much hit it right on the head.

It is pretty hard to drop any letters unless you don't follow the instructions and/or blow through the practice sessions.

Also, you don't have to worry about letter A coming down belt D, etc., like on the CD. The ones that are "defective" are blatantly wrong, in other words, you'll see something like an E, W, I, etc., coming down a belt. Since you're doing all of your work at the bottom of the screen its hard not to call quality control in time.

I think the couple of mistakes I had were mainly when I'd put a letter into a "less full" box (maybe did that once or twice) or I'd get moving quickly and click on the wrong color box by mistake when trying to move a new box into place. In any event, nothing ever fell off the bottom of the belt, the computer never had to call a new box in for me or order replacement boxes for me. Reading through the instructions, it seemed those were the big "no-nos" to let happen, outside of having a letter fall off the belt.

[ATC Hopeful]

Originally Posted by Barty

You pretty much hit it right on the head.

It is pretty hard to drop any letters unless you don't follow the instructions and/or blow through the practice sessions.

Also, you don't have to worry about letter A coming down belt D, etc., like on the CD. The ones that are "defective" are blatantly wrong, in other words, you'll see something like an E, W, I, etc., coming down a belt. Since you're doing all of your work at the bottom of the screen its hard not to call quality control in time.

I think the couple of mistakes I had were mainly when I'd put a letter into a "less full" box (maybe did that once or twice) or I'd get moving quickly and click on the wrong color box by mistake when trying to move a new box into place. In any event, nothing ever fell off the bottom of the belt, the computer never had to call a new box in for me or order replacement boxes for me. Reading through the instructions, it seemed those were the big "no-nos" to let happen, outside of having a letter fall off the belt.

[utahaviator]

Originally Posted by MrBucket

I said the exact same thing. It was very distracting.
I know someones going to say "well, if that bothered you then maybe this isn't the job for you..." Enough already. I'm just talking about in a testing atmosphere the headphones are quite loud.

So how do you think you did?

Well, if that bothered you then maybe this isn't the job for you!! Couldn't help myself...I had the same gripe about the testing. Those headsets were extremely loud and obnoxious. I had the decency to turn mine down...so HOPEFULLY mine didn't contribute to the noise and distraction...

[jayzee510]

...hate to ask this...
where's a good place to find out what level certain facilities are? like, i don't know, MSY for instance?

[chichi]

Originally Posted by jayzee510

...hate to ask this...
where's a good place to find out what level certain facilities are? like, i don't know, MSY for instance?

The link to the file is around here somewhere... as of July 2007, MSY was a level 9...

Edit: Here's the link: http://faaimposedpayrules.natca.net/...ratesrev13.xls

[GirlsFly2]

Originally Posted by ATC Hopeful

Just got my AT-SAT score. 100!!!!!!!!!!!

Congratulations! I'm taking it tomorrow.

[chopper]

Just my AT-SAT score.....truthfully, i didnt think that i had passed up to the point that i received my score but, i passed. 89%

[chichi]

Originally Posted by chopper

Just my AT-SAT score.....truthfully, i didnt think that i had passed up to the point that i received my score but, i passed. 89%

Thanks for posting... I was giving up on checking for today since it's taking most people more than a day lol... but mine is there too - 91.5

[ATC Hopeful]

Originally Posted by chichi

Thanks for posting... I was giving up on checking for today since it's taking most people more than a day lol... but mine is there too - 91.5

Congatulations, now we just have to wait some more. I know that the last testing day for our group is Friday, but any idea when we might get our Geo Pref. email.

[chichi]

Originally Posted by ATC Hopeful

Congatulations, now we just have to wait some more. I know that the last testing day for our group is Friday, but any idea when we might get our Geo Pref. email.

FEBOTS finished testing on 4/30 and got the email on 5/2... so we can cross our fingers for sometime next week... hopefully...

[ATC Hopeful]

Originally Posted by chichi

FEBOTS finished testing on 4/30 and got the email on 5/2... so we can cross our fingers for sometime next week... hopefully...

Man that would be great. I know you keep up with this stuff, so if everything goes as planned, when do you expect our PEPC dates to be, and then OKC class dates to be?

[chichi]

Originally Posted by ATC Hopeful

Man that would be great. I know you keep up with this stuff, so if everything goes as planned, when do you expect our PEPC dates to be, and then OKC class dates to be?

I think you're expecting too much from me

Let's see... They were put on referral lists on 6/6, so that would put us sometime towards the end of August for that... PEPC invites went out at the end of June(I think?) so mid September for us... PEPCs in October maybe? OKC dates... whenever they have them available... some FEBOTS can't start class until October, so I don't know what they'll do for us...

Edit: It also depends on when we have hiring panels meeting... the ones considering PUBNAT1 applicants were 6/9-6/10 I believe... we've been hearing Sept/Oct for us though, so it can be very different from what I'm posting...

[ATC Hopeful]

Originally Posted by chichi

I think you're expecting too much from me

Let's see... They were put on referral lists on 6/6, so that would put us sometime towards the end of August for that... PEPC invites went out at the end of June(I think?) so mid September for us... PEPCs in October maybe? OKC dates... whenever they have them available... some FEBOTS can't start class until October, so I don't know what they'll do for us...

Thank you for the information, very helpful and good luck to us all, especially with the patience part of it.