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[citrus_defender]

Just wanted to get some comments on this article from the washington post from some current Controllers.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...555991250/1001

[GeorgeM]

Originally Posted by citrus_defender

Just wanted to get some comments on this article from the washington post from some current Controllers.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...555991250/1001

Not a controller, but I read on the FAA website that the DFW TRACON manager and his deputy were relieved of their duties by the FAA COO over this incident. They're calling it a management issue.

"DFW TRACON's manager and assistant manager have been removed from their positions, and could face further administrative action, “up to and including termination,” said Krakowski."

[Fox Xray]

Originally Posted by citrus_defender

Just wanted to get some comments on this article from the washington post from some current Controllers.

http://www.washingtontimes.com/apps/...555991250/1001

What we are seeing is the Bush FAA is starting to crumble, if was never an **IF** ... it has always been a **WHEN**.

I don't claim that NATCA or controllers are perfect or have the correct answer or solution to everything, what I have experienced throughout my career has been a give and take on both sides and the results have been good. The Blakey / Bush FAA promoted the biggest loser's and zero's into newly created management positions inside the new ATO. This has been a debacle of monumental proportions. Forget the front line supervisors, they can't go to the bathroom without approval, even the facility managers can't make a decision on their own, everything goes up the chain of command and then covered up like I have never seen before. Add to this a pay for performance and bonus system where a facility manager is graded based on two things, low OE's and low OT spending... those two things and your a great manager. The work rules were the final piece, take everything away from the controllers. Great... in less then 2 short years the entire system is failing around them and congress knows it...

This is what has given you D10, the inspection debacle, and numerous other things the public is not privy to, the walls of the FAA are crumbling fast. Based on people's response to FAA reauthorization and user fees in the general section on this board many people are skeptical of supporting the measure but FAA reauthorization passing will be a huge step to cleaning house in the FAA. While the bill still has many hurdles the passage of that bill invalidates many so called "managers" in the FAA and in turn will be the beginning of their departures and hopefully a return to a better agency as a whole.

[ATLTRACON]

It is another instance of management getting their hand caught in the proverbial cookie jar.

BTW, controllers did NOT blame pilots. It is not for us to decide...it's managlement.

Here is testimony from one of the TOP manglement hacks in front of Congress the other day.

But at a Senate hearing on April 10, Mr. Stairwell’s deputy, Nicholas A. Sabatini, the associate administrator for aviation safety, responded to a question about whether anybody in Dallas had lied about the close aerial encounters by saying he was not aware of that happening.

F.A.A. officials said Thursday that Mr. Sabatini had misunderstood the question and thought it referred to a different issue.
Typical BS answer. Oops you caught me...I don't know what you're talking about...those damn controllers.

The ENTIRE manglement of the FFA needs to be FIRED. Simple as that.

We as controllers report to manglement when we believe an airspace deviation has happened, aircraft have come in close proximity of each other. It is then manglements job to determine what or who was at fault. Problem is if manglement determines that too many of these deals are the controllers fault then local manglement is going to have to answer to higher ups in the Crystal/Puzzle Palace IE FFA Headquarters. Doesn't look to good on your resume if you can't control you folks. Might even mean a demotion...sooooo blame it on the pilots.

entire article.... http://www.nytimes.com/2008/04/25/wa...=1&oref=slogin