Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job

brentg350 · January 6th, 2008, 22:32

My wife used to be a army air traffic controller, she was tactical for awhile and then fixed base but she has two facility ratings. That was quite a few years ago and she's been out of aviation since then.

My question is what type of jobs are available to her that are not directly involved with controlling traffic since she is over the age requirement by two years, plus she also is a few classes away from finishing her degree with Embry Riddle.

DE727UPS · January 6th, 2008, 23:35

I was an air traffic assistant. Not sure if they even have those anymore, but ATA's staffed the clearance delivery and flight data positions.

brentg350 · January 7th, 2008, 02:13

Hey thanks DE727

How do you like Spokane? I used to go back and forth up there to the airforce base when I was with 160th special ops - I loved making that trip.

Fox Xray · January 7th, 2008, 09:27

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Originally Posted by DE727UPS

I was an air traffic assistant. Not sure if they even have those anymore, but ATA's staffed the clearance delivery and flight data positions.

Flight data still exists at the center where I work. They do not work in the specific areas, they mostly deal with Notams and flight plan distribution. I know little to nothing about how to get the job. The few people we have in that office have been there forever... I'm not sure if they are hiring into that position anymore or letting it fade away via attrition. I know we have lost one or two to retirement and I don't think the positions have been filled.

If she wants a job with the FAA then check out jobs.faa.gov and do a search. Non FAA she could always look into contract tower work.

brentg350 · January 8th, 2008, 03:09

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Originally Posted by Fox Xray

Flight data still exists at the center where I work. They do not work in the specific areas, they mostly deal with Notams and flight plan distribution. I know little to nothing about how to get the job. The few people we have in that office have been there forever... I'm not sure if they are hiring into that position anymore or letting it fade away via attrition. I know we have lost one or two to retirement and I don't think the positions have been filled.

If she wants a job with the FAA then check out jobs.faa.gov and do a search. Non FAA she could always look into contract tower work.

Thanks brotha - I'll do that...and thanks for responding

DE727UPS · January 8th, 2008, 22:05

Spokane is a great town. Suits me well. I kinda don't like the winters but have found that bidding reserve in ONT is a great way out.

Airport7 · January 9th, 2008, 15:50

What is her major? Does she have any experience with aviation other than ATC? A lot of people work for the FAA in many different capacities, and she may have a points advantage being prior military. Check out there jobs site someone posted above.

brentg350 · January 10th, 2008, 00:16

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Originally Posted by Airport7

What is her major? Does she have any experience with aviation other than ATC? A lot of people work for the FAA in many different capacities, and she may have a points advantage being prior military. Check out there jobs site someone posted above.

Her only experience in aviation is with ATC, she does have management experience and her degree is in professional aeronautics with a minor in safety and management.

ATLTRACON · January 28th, 2008, 12:51

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Originally Posted by brentg350

My wife used to be a army air traffic controller, she was tactical for awhile and then fixed base but she has two facility ratings. That was quite a few years ago and she's been out of aviation since then.

My question is what type of jobs are available to her that are not directly involved with controlling traffic since she is over the age requirement by two years, plus she also is a few classes away from finishing her degree with Embry Riddle.

The FFA has been waving the age requirement in some cases.

CJ @ A80

88MPH · January 28th, 2008, 23:12

Ok, small hijack

What's the deal with the FFA play off? I'm pretty sure it's derogative ...

I just wanna be cool and know all the "lingo"

clcl · January 29th, 2008, 01:00

The FAA usually keeps the ATA or Flight Data jobs open for controller washouts, it doesn't pay much GS-7, the supervisor of flight data is a GS-9. It's really for the most part a dead end job. Not many people get to move around within the agencey once you get put into Flight Data. Folks that get that position either quit real quick or stay there forever. I think of it as a "being put out to pasture job." I will say a couple of good things about the position, It's easy, not a whole lot of work related stress, relativley good benefits also you don't need a medical. Some centers, Flight Data stays open 24x7, some close up early. Never the less you still get bounced all over the clock. The pay is about $32.000 to $40.000 per year and really doesn't go any higher than that. I spent a little over 2 years as one and resigned, due to basically lack of opportunity and low pay for the location I was in.
If she was a certified controller the options I can think of are DOD or contract ATC facilities, another possible option might be NTSB given her back ground and education.
Given the fact that the FAA is really starting to hurt BIG time for seasoned Qualified controllers they may be willing to waive the age thing, if not now, perhaps in the near future, depending how bad things get within the FAA.
Anyway best of luck to all.

January 6th, 2008, 22:32	#1
brentg350 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 39	Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job My wife used to be a army air traffic controller, she was tactical for awhile and then fixed base but she has two facility ratings. That was quite a few years ago and she's been out of aviation since then. My question is what type of jobs are available to her that are not directly involved with controlling traffic since she is over the age requirement by two years, plus she also is a few classes away from finishing her degree with Embry Riddle. __________________ G ____________________ Fear, as I understand it, is simply due to a lack of confidence or a lack of knowledge which is the same thing. - Katherine Stinson

January 6th, 2008, 23:35	#2
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,521	Re: Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job I was an air traffic assistant. Not sure if they even have those anymore, but ATA's staffed the clearance delivery and flight data positions. __________________ Click here to see how I became a UPS pilot http://www.jetcareers.com/content/view/65/132/

January 7th, 2008, 02:13	#3
brentg350 Junior Member Join Date: Jun 2007 Location: Clarksville, TN Posts: 39	Re: Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job Hey thanks DE727 How do you like Spokane? I used to go back and forth up there to the airforce base when I was with 160th special ops - I loved making that trip. __________________ G ____________________ Fear, as I understand it, is simply due to a lack of confidence or a lack of knowledge which is the same thing. - Katherine Stinson

January 8th, 2008, 22:05	#6
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,521	Re: Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job Spokane is a great town. Suits me well. I kinda don't like the winters but have found that bidding reserve in ONT is a great way out. __________________ Click here to see how I became a UPS pilot http://www.jetcareers.com/content/view/65/132/

January 9th, 2008, 15:50	#7
Airport7 Junior Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 34	Re: Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job What is her major? Does she have any experience with aviation other than ATC? A lot of people work for the FAA in many different capacities, and she may have a points advantage being prior military. Check out there jobs site someone posted above.

January 28th, 2008, 23:12	#10
88MPH Senior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: TUS/AVL Posts: 1,110	Re: Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job Ok, small hijack What's the deal with the FFA play off? I'm pretty sure it's derogative ... I just wanna be cool and know all the "lingo" __________________ You have to understand that this isn't a philosophy, or a literary theory, or a story to me. It's my life! Absolutely. So just go make it the one you've always wanted. 110 110 110 = evil genius.

January 29th, 2008, 01:00	#11
clcl Newbie Join Date: Sep 2007 Posts: 22	Re: Have a question regarding non-traffic controlling job The FAA usually keeps the ATA or Flight Data jobs open for controller washouts, it doesn't pay much GS-7, the supervisor of flight data is a GS-9. It's really for the most part a dead end job. Not many people get to move around within the agencey once you get put into Flight Data. Folks that get that position either quit real quick or stay there forever. I think of it as a "being put out to pasture job." I will say a couple of good things about the position, It's easy, not a whole lot of work related stress, relativley good benefits also you don't need a medical. Some centers, Flight Data stays open 24x7, some close up early. Never the less you still get bounced all over the clock. The pay is about $32.000 to $40.000 per year and really doesn't go any higher than that. I spent a little over 2 years as one and resigned, due to basically lack of opportunity and low pay for the location I was in. If she was a certified controller the options I can think of are DOD or contract ATC facilities, another possible option might be NTSB given her back ground and education. Given the fact that the FAA is really starting to hurt BIG time for seasoned Qualified controllers they may be willing to waive the age thing, if not now, perhaps in the near future, depending how bad things get within the FAA. Anyway best of luck to all.

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