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DE727UPS · February 27th, 2004, 14:57

"I was close to firing my CFI during my PPL training because he yelled at me"

That makes me laugh. I think I yell at most of my students once in a while. Yelling as a way to vent or as a common occurance is not acceptable. Sometimes, though, to reinforce something very important in the nature of safety, I'll raise my voice for effect. Doing this on a regular basis would make it meaningless. Some things said just need to get through to the inner cortex of the brain and raising your voice helps get through all that grey matter.

I had an ex-student, who is now a CFI himself, tell me I saved his life. He owns a Cheokee 140 and flew it heavy out of mountain, grass strip one summer day. While the trees were coming at him and it was looking like it was a mistake to takeoff, he heard me yelling at him to lower the nose to get his speed to Vx. A heavy Cherokee just won't climb at low speeds like a Cessna will. He thinks he'd have gone into the trees if he hadn't "heard my voice".

I don't think it's ever right to vent at a student by yelling. My 727 F/O instructor was a type A and yelled a lot in the sim. It was a really bad experience for both of us. He had quadruple bypass surgery not long after.

February 27th, 2004, 14:57	#7
DE727UPS Old Skool Join Date: Nov 2000 Location: Spokane, WA Posts: 6,405	Re: Anyone had to fire a CFI ? "I was close to firing my CFI during my PPL training because he yelled at me" That makes me laugh. I think I yell at most of my students once in a while. Yelling as a way to vent or as a common occurance is not acceptable. Sometimes, though, to reinforce something very important in the nature of safety, I'll raise my voice for effect. Doing this on a regular basis would make it meaningless. Some things said just need to get through to the inner cortex of the brain and raising your voice helps get through all that grey matter. I had an ex-student, who is now a CFI himself, tell me I saved his life. He owns a Cheokee 140 and flew it heavy out of mountain, grass strip one summer day. While the trees were coming at him and it was looking like it was a mistake to takeoff, he heard me yelling at him to lower the nose to get his speed to Vx. A heavy Cherokee just won't climb at low speeds like a Cessna will. He thinks he'd have gone into the trees if he hadn't "heard my voice". I don't think it's ever right to vent at a student by yelling. My 727 F/O instructor was a type A and yelled a lot in the sim. It was a really bad experience for both of us. He had quadruple bypass surgery not long after.