[surreal1221]

I won't hold my breath on that one. The one's who are passive right now, you really think they'll be moved to be vocal and aggressive when they realize their little "dream" world isn't materializing? You think they'll have the stamina required to actually develop pathways to instituting changes for the profession?

For some reason, I doubt it. They'll take their Aviation management degrees and go find a desk job where they can make more money, for well - less self-motivation.

I hope I'm wrong, but until "they" realize the failing dream that they have, they will never come onto the other team for the big victory. They'll watch from the side lines, as those of us who give a #### hit home runs for pay, benefits, QOL, and work rules.

I have a great analogy for this. I grew up in a middle class family, with health insurance courtesy of my father's employer. In my youth I saw how a quality health care system can, or well. . .how well a quality health care system can run in a "capitalistic" society. Fast forward to my time spent in the military. Considering I had the experience of having health care growing up, I know that we as service members were getting a raw deal. But to my peers who grew up in either a low income environment, and no health care, they thought the health care provided by the military was great - and nothing was wrong with it.

The shame is, that while there are people who are still willing to accept the conditions that exist, none of us who want to improve the environment we work in can succeed.