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Originally Posted by PDT565

"Subpar product"??

Let's think about that. People who go to ATP finish with the same pieces of plastic (ratings) that anyone form an FBO gets. Unlike other employers, airlines don't ask, "where did you get your degree? Harvard or State College?". The FAA grants these ratings through merrit of your check ride. The examiner does not care where you went for your training. The standard is set by the FAA per the PTS, not by Mr. Meyers. ATP does an excellent job of teaching the student exactly what the FAA deems important. Lets remember that at ATP (part 61), there are no in house check rides. Like at Riddle, Phoenix East, Delta Connection. ATP's students are evaluated by DPE's or the FSDO.


The proof is in the end result; If you finish ATP in 90 days, and the FAA has signed off on your ratings, then you CAN in fact learn that quickly. ATP is for motivated people. I've seen students who used to "dig ditches" for a living succeed incredibly at ATP for the one reason that they were well motivated.

Here's another example of why the 90 day program is a great choice over an FBO style program. If Mr. Meyers had gone with ATP in the begining instead of an FBO, he'd most likely have the seniority to keep his job when they furlough.

And by that same logic, FBO students finish with the same piece of plastic (paper, when I got mine) that a ATP student finishes with. So that doesn't make the ATP person any better than the FBO person. (or vice versa.....)

I know you're new here, but let's not make posts like that "personal" by telling someone they'd have the senority to not get furloughed if they'd done XYZ program..... You do NOT know that for sure, and it's not a fair or accurate thing to say.

Personally, I do not get into the FBO vs. Pilot Mill vs. Collegiate Aviation argument. I have an aviation degree (worthless for several reasons yet I'm still not regretful that I did it), I did my PPL at an FBO, but I did it in 4 weeks like a pilot mill......... Either way the individual gets the same rating as anyone else.