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vladi34 · July 20th, 2008, 17:25

Thanks for all of the response, it's truly appreciated. Here is what I got to add to all of this. I don't think that I have ever considered myself a disabled person, there are people that are in far worse condition then me (wounded soldiers, accidents victims, persons with birth defects, persons with uncontrollable medical conditions, and many more) that deserve the help that they get for being disabled. I on the other hand like to eat good food and unfortunately over the last few years lost the activity level that I used to have, simple as that. It is my fault for being this way and it's something that I can and will definitely do something about. The problem that I have with ATP simply lies in the fact that these people saw me before when I toured the facility and I asked them questions about my weight and no one told me that it was going to be a problem, just the opposite as a matter of fact. On top of all that I was there for ground school for a week and no one said that it would be a problem for me to fly. I also have a problem with them making the call that I will not be able to get a job, they don't know me...
SIUav8er if they would return all of my money that would be a good gesture on their part, but from what I heard from the facility manager they are going to charge me $750 for materials... I don't need their materials, and 750 is 750 in my eyes that is still a considerable chunk of money. Now I don't yet know what I'm going to get back, that is Jim's call and I am still waiting for him to make that decision (while Sallie Mae continues to charge me interest). All of this is not even mentioning that I quit my job and spent money actually getting down to and back from ATP. If they would have told me right of the bat, or if it was on their website that my weight would be an issue I would have stayed at my job a while longer and worked on getting my weight down BEFORE going out there... Instead I was planning on taking that 5 to 6 months while at ATP and working on getting my weight down a little (or a lot). I know appearance is a lot when it comes to getting flying jobs, but I also know that weight is not everything...
Basically I consider what they did to me is a slimeball move on their part and they could have easily let me stay and get my ratings at their school or warned me ahead of time. But life is full of speed bumps, if there were none we would all be millionears and flying our own jets

I do not intend to let this get me down, and I WILL get all my ratings and be flying for a living, it's as simple as that. But I do not like someone stealing from my family, and if ATP takes a dime from me that is what I will consider it. If on the other hand Jim does the right thing and sends every last penny back to me, I will acnowledge that and part with ATP on neutral terms. As far as I can see that would tell me that he realized that they effed up on letting me in and they are doing the best that they can to remedy the situation, and if that means for them to take a small loss on the materials that they sent me so be it, it won't bankrupt them. After all I am taking a loss to, $300 in gas to get there $300 to get back, loss of a job, and being away from my kids and wife... We'll see how this turns out.

July 20th, 2008, 17:25	#48
vladi34 Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Des Moines Posts: 54	Re: Have to leave ATP only a week in... Thanks for all of the response, it's truly appreciated. Here is what I got to add to all of this. I don't think that I have ever considered myself a disabled person, there are people that are in far worse condition then me (wounded soldiers, accidents victims, persons with birth defects, persons with uncontrollable medical conditions, and many more) that deserve the help that they get for being disabled. I on the other hand like to eat good food and unfortunately over the last few years lost the activity level that I used to have, simple as that. It is my fault for being this way and it's something that I can and will definitely do something about. The problem that I have with ATP simply lies in the fact that these people saw me before when I toured the facility and I asked them questions about my weight and no one told me that it was going to be a problem, just the opposite as a matter of fact. On top of all that I was there for ground school for a week and no one said that it would be a problem for me to fly. I also have a problem with them making the call that I will not be able to get a job, they don't know me... SIUav8er if they would return all of my money that would be a good gesture on their part, but from what I heard from the facility manager they are going to charge me $750 for materials... I don't need their materials, and 750 is 750 in my eyes that is still a considerable chunk of money. Now I don't yet know what I'm going to get back, that is Jim's call and I am still waiting for him to make that decision (while Sallie Mae continues to charge me interest). All of this is not even mentioning that I quit my job and spent money actually getting down to and back from ATP. If they would have told me right of the bat, or if it was on their website that my weight would be an issue I would have stayed at my job a while longer and worked on getting my weight down BEFORE going out there... Instead I was planning on taking that 5 to 6 months while at ATP and working on getting my weight down a little (or a lot). I know appearance is a lot when it comes to getting flying jobs, but I also know that weight is not everything... Basically I consider what they did to me is a slimeball move on their part and they could have easily let me stay and get my ratings at their school or warned me ahead of time. But life is full of speed bumps, if there were none we would all be millionears and flying our own jets I do not intend to let this get me down, and I WILL get all my ratings and be flying for a living, it's as simple as that. But I do not like someone stealing from my family, and if ATP takes a dime from me that is what I will consider it. If on the other hand Jim does the right thing and sends every last penny back to me, I will acnowledge that and part with ATP on neutral terms. As far as I can see that would tell me that he realized that they effed up on letting me in and they are doing the best that they can to remedy the situation, and if that means for them to take a small loss on the materials that they sent me so be it, it won't bankrupt them. After all I am taking a loss to, $300 in gas to get there $300 to get back, loss of a job, and being away from my kids and wife... We'll see how this turns out.