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Old May 16th, 2008, 13:29   #18
Chris_Ford
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Default Re: Trans State in trouble

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Originally Posted by aloft View Post
Uh, because your pilots refuse to negotiate in good faith? Holas tried to go the RP/S5/CQ route, but the TSA pilots shut him down. At some point you cut your losses and say "you guys had your chance...5 of them, in fact."

I can't always automatically side with the pilots; some people are just hell-bent on their own destruction (see JTrain's sig), then act surprised when it happens.
Do you know what the offers were? They were insults. It was Hulas who never negotiated in good faith. He wanted 50 seat rates to fly the 70 seaters. The offer never increased after the "5" times you quote. This is not conjecture, this is fact from a member of the TSA negotiating committee.

However, you seem to use management conjecture "They rejected the contract, they weren't negotiating in good faith!" to satisfy your portion of the equation, but then reject it when reasonable conclusions are drawn on the pilot side.

Please do go work for GoJets. Make as many excuses as you want, but the fact remains that GoJet pilots are the scum of the industry. You can say it's not merited, but the majority of pilots familiar with the situation will disagree. Them's the breaks.

In the mean time, I'd suggest you just keep worrying about your Cessna and let the big boys handle their own problems.
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