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Old May 4th, 2008, 03:46   #16
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Default Re: ERJ Flap Questuon

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Originally Posted by BobDDuck
Is there some sort of MEL or procedure that would have an ERJ climb out with flaps 9 through 11000 feet?

My only thought was it was bumpy down low and it was for an improved climb rate (think short field take off on steriods).
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Originally Posted by alchemy
Not that I know of. It is, unfortunately, a somewhat common mistake since there is no "auto retract" feature triggered by exceeding Vfe9.

My company revised it's after takeoff checklist several years ago requring both pilots to verbally confirm "flaps indicating zero" as part of the after takeoff checklist, usually completed within the first 3-4 thousand feet after takeoff, if not sooner. If I recall correctly, this adddition to the checklist was very effective in reducing flap overspeeds, which could result in lengthy delays due to the required maintenance inspection after they occured.
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Originally Posted by Minuteman View Post
Its probably not the same phase of flight you were thinking of, but a lot of overspeeds can happen during go-arounds and, less-forgiveably, places where 250-below-10k isn't applicable.
Unfortunately, this is not the context that I read in this thread. I agree you could get behind the airplane in the situations you talk of, but, that did not sound like the original question, nor in the follow-up on after-takeoff checklists...

Like I said, fly the airplane, especially on a normal takeoff...if things get out of normal, get them as close to normal as possible again, and FLY THE AIRPLANE!

Also, 250 below 10K USUALLY is over water...why would you leave any flaps in? Just curious...
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