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Originally Posted by N8081G From what you are saying about this Captain, he seems very cocky/arrogant! This comes off as him being insecure and maybe he has personal problems he needs to deal with. Don't mean to assume anything but perhaps he has relationships issues at home or something of that sort. As someone mentioned, we all have our days. Last thing you want is to have a confrontation with him which can escalate into unnecessary drama/stress in your life. It also isn't safe for crewmembers to act this way with each other. Everyone should be able to communicate freely and be able to voice their concerns at all times. This isn't the 1950's/60's when the captain was the so-called "god" on the plane and no one dare tries to question his authority, or atleast i hope not.
I think ego is the big issue on here, from both parties. He probably feels he is too accomplished to be seen around F/As and F/As are pissed off at that behavior because he makes them seem as if they are not needed or important for the flight. |
You hit the nail on the head!
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Originally Posted by Bumblebee If you know he does this every time, then handle it in the best diplomatic way possible. If you act business like, and to the point within SOP then he has absolutely no recourse.yes it is his place.well . . . for me it's not your highness, it is Commodore, however  but if you knew he was your crew, then . . . well . . . . maybe just checking in with him would have alleviated the whole issue.He was wrong, I agree.
I would keep a log of this kind of crap, and tell him upfront that that request is inappropriate and that he needs to give you time to handle your job. If I were you I would also talk to your supervisor about it, and how to handle this type of behavior. If it is how you say (I and I believe it is  ) then your supervisor may already be aware of his shenanigans and may just need one more instance to handle it.
With what I read, I had some of the same questions . . .honestly 
I just hadn't had the opportunity to ask them yet
respectfully submitted, Dale |
I have covered all my bases with my supervisor, don't you worry, Dale!
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Originally Posted by Airdale There is a simple thing that is often forgotten in today's world. Its called "courtesy". You know, saying "Hello" to other people around you, especially when they are your coworkers.
I don't care what the company policy is, if you walk into your crew room and you see your company crew members, what the hell is wrong with not saying hello and maybe starting a conversation? Whether its policy or not, you just don't walk right past your coworkers in this line of work without saying a word.
I ran in a crew environment for years doing Search and Rescue. You treat your crewmembers with respect and you establish a friendly relationship with those you rely on. Some pilots think that FA's are just the "ladies in the back". That attitude is crap and you know it. When pilots start walking around with a chip on their shoulder where they can't even say hello and be friendly with their own crew, than what do you think happens in an emergency? They are not "just" Flight Attendants, they are critical to the safety of the passengers and us. After all, if our passengers aren't safe than what exactly are we doing at work?
You can come up with every excuse for this crew, but really nobody is going to buy it. This is exactly why pilots are so divided everywhere. If you can't even show some friendly courtesy to your own company crew members, than I'd rather not share a safety sensitive position with you. Period. |

Again, Dave....thank you so very much....
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Originally Posted by rjmore Sometimes it can go the other way too. I managed to p-off an FA without even trying once. She asked if she could close the door and then did and I asked if we could close the door with bins open. The thing was, I had no clue it was just a question because I didn't know. She took it another way and didn't speak to me for the next three days. Oh well, she did her job and got a lot of compliments from pax. The FO was a woman so they were talking and she finally spilled all the reasons the other one was angry. She thought I was mad at her when I asked the door question. My FO agreed that I didn't say anything even remotely harsh. It was pretty funny because she would poke her head in and ask the FO if she wanted stuff and just ignored me. When I got busy the FO actually offered to get me a coke. I could have made a big deal out of it but like I said she did a good job with the pax. She was childish sure but I didn't really care.
Now if you want a real challenge, try to have 19 FAs and not p one off. Sometimes it can be tough! Glad I was only on the pax fleet for training! |
I feel your pain! Granted, there are some FA's who are major drama queens but trust me, I am NOT one of them. I, too, hate the childish games they play. Thank God I've not had the misfortune of working with any of them yet!
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Originally Posted by Cruise Maybe, don't know.....but that's not who she's talking about.
To support Qgar, like a good Captain should do for their crew, I will acknowledge her sentiments. I DO know this particular person and I agree 100%....this person does not give a moments thought about anyone else except themselves. This person is universally disliked by nearly everyone they have ever flown with (note I didn't say 'everyone').
I feel your pain Qgar! Be glad you don't 'always' fly with this person. |
Thank you, Matt. You are a prince, no wait, knight in shining armor for riding to my defense.
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449 I bet germb747 is not married!  |
Who knows? I can understand him trying to play devil's advocate, but in this case...my conscience is absolutely clear.
