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Originally Posted by ATLTRACON  It's all a ruse. We don't really know what we are doing. I personally find it to be a pain in the $^% that these speeds are on the STAR. My goal is to put you 5 miles in trail all the way down the downwind. I tell the pilots coming in on the longside "delete the speed" or "maintain 300 kts UNTIL FURTHER ADVISED". The next thing you know you are slowing at the required areas or asking me whether I want you to slow. UNTIL FURTHER ADVISED!!!! I would not ask. Until the controller specifically says something about speed (IE UNTIL FURTHER ADVISED MAINTAIN 280 kts), fly the speeds that are on the STAR. |
Haha...it's funny you say that because I got chewed out by an approach controller for doing just that!!!! First approach (128.0?) told us "310kts until advised" and then switched us over to Final (127.25?) . Upon reaching DOEVR (210kts depicted) the controller asks how fast we're going.
Us: "Uh, last assigned was 310 kts till advised"
Approach: "What the heck are you doing 310 for?"
Us:" Sir, we were told 310 till advised by the last controller"
Approach:" Doesn't the chart say 210???.....damn I hate these things"
Us: "Yeah, us too.....by the way, we're confused, do you want us to slow or not???????"
Approach: "sure...whatever.....(laughing)"
This was all so much easier when you just assigned us speeds and headings!!!! It seems like neither of us knows what the other wants or is expecting right now. It's like the person who designed them never had to do either of our jobs!