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89PDTCF · March 27th, 2008, 00:53

Well, to bastardize a situation:
Person A went through FSA’s CIME and tried to AATP his way to ASA.
Person B went through FSA’s Instructor Track (after the CIME), fulfilled his commitment and interviewed at ASA around the same time as Person A.
Let’s say they interviewed a couple weeks ago.
One day, Person A got a call saying his ASA class date (after his AATP) would have to be pushed back until October (or possibly longer; they are no longer hiring), where person B is going to be in ATL very soon for basic indoc. (Will he get furloughed soon there-after, who knows. At least he’ll have a plan B other than hopefully another 121 operator (what if they all stop hiring) (Plan B pays better btw)). Meanwhile, person A is left hanging out, hoping Eagle (the only airline really left interviewing for the AATP) actually comes when they say they are, as it is his only viable alternative. (Not saying anything bad about Eagle, things have been changing rapidly lately.)
Since ASA is not currently hiring, ExpressJet is not currently hiring, and since Pinnnacle and TSA have hired people with less than 400 TT recently (and could anyone say when the last time Pinnacle interviewed at FSA was? TSA was there in small form (only hired a couple) earlier this year (early January), but with $100/barrel oil, neither may be back for a while.), the only option that “makes sense” to go through an AATP for is Eagle (they hire less than 500TT (sending you to FSA to complete basically ½ the AATP for free)). The question I have is, how much longer will Eagle continue hiring? And what does their schedule look like in regards to coming to FSA and interviewing in the near future? The current Eagle/FSA contract has only been in place for about 6 months and if the Eagle spin-off/IPO occurs, what will happen then? Who knows.
Things have definitely gotten crazy real fast lately; ASA was planning on bringing another CRJ200 to VRB to promote hiring and the AATP, but I believe that was canceled. Regardless, a week or so after the date it was there (or was supposed to be?), they quit hiring.

Other than that, a friend of mine who has been flying for WN since 1984 told me the other day when I was talking to him about my training that he wishes he would have gotten his CFI, etc. back when he was training; once his career started rolling, he just never got around to it, and wishes he had.

Granted you may be able to make more $ instructing elsewhere, after having flown at another big named flight school (and other random places), I can say (for the most part) the instructors at FSA set the standard. Granted there is a lot of “stuff” to put up with at FSA (as there is almost anywhere), most seasoned instructors or check-airmen that I’ve flown with have said things like (after giving my training background) “I can tell you trained a while at FSA.”

"Sir! I have a plan!
Mein Führer! I can walk!"

March 27th, 2008, 00:53	#4
89PDTCF Newbie Join Date: Nov 2006 Location: Fort Lauderdale Posts: 6	Re: CFI or get in fast? Well, to bastardize a situation: Person A went through FSA’s CIME and tried to AATP his way to ASA. Person B went through FSA’s Instructor Track (after the CIME), fulfilled his commitment and interviewed at ASA around the same time as Person A. Let’s say they interviewed a couple weeks ago. One day, Person A got a call saying his ASA class date (after his AATP) would have to be pushed back until October (or possibly longer; they are no longer hiring), where person B is going to be in ATL very soon for basic indoc. (Will he get furloughed soon there-after, who knows. At least he’ll have a plan B other than hopefully another 121 operator (what if they all stop hiring) (Plan B pays better btw)). Meanwhile, person A is left hanging out, hoping Eagle (the only airline really left interviewing for the AATP) actually comes when they say they are, as it is his only viable alternative. (Not saying anything bad about Eagle, things have been changing rapidly lately.) Since ASA is not currently hiring, ExpressJet is not currently hiring, and since Pinnnacle and TSA have hired people with less than 400 TT recently (and could anyone say when the last time Pinnacle interviewed at FSA was? TSA was there in small form (only hired a couple) earlier this year (early January), but with $100/barrel oil, neither may be back for a while.), the only option that “makes sense” to go through an AATP for is Eagle (they hire less than 500TT (sending you to FSA to complete basically ½ the AATP for free)). The question I have is, how much longer will Eagle continue hiring? And what does their schedule look like in regards to coming to FSA and interviewing in the near future? The current Eagle/FSA contract has only been in place for about 6 months and if the Eagle spin-off/IPO occurs, what will happen then? Who knows. Things have definitely gotten crazy real fast lately; ASA was planning on bringing another CRJ200 to VRB to promote hiring and the AATP, but I believe that was canceled. Regardless, a week or so after the date it was there (or was supposed to be?), they quit hiring. Other than that, a friend of mine who has been flying for WN since 1984 told me the other day when I was talking to him about my training that he wishes he would have gotten his CFI, etc. back when he was training; once his career started rolling, he just never got around to it, and wishes he had. Granted you may be able to make more $ instructing elsewhere, after having flown at another big named flight school (and other random places), I can say (for the most part) the instructors at FSA set the standard. Granted there is a lot of “stuff” to put up with at FSA (as there is almost anywhere), most seasoned instructors or check-airmen that I’ve flown with have said things like (after giving my training background) “I can tell you trained a while at FSA.” "Sir! I have a plan! Mein Führer! I can walk!"