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wheredhego · March 10th, 2008, 21:03

And the ATC guys in ATL are all really great.

They just got rid of the new "descend via" STARs due to numerous amounts of pilot deviations. I never saw what was so hard about the things, but I guess they had a lot of guys descending into departure corridors or busting the "at or above" fixes. Now they are simply down to speed restrictions, but today we were told to ignore that as well. We'll see what happens tomorrow!

Yesterday a Northwest guy busted an altitude and he knew he screwed up bad. (I asked the captain if he had him in sight as we were following...he said NO, so i told him "right there, the guy with his tail tucked between his wings!").
We listened to NW from then on, and usually ground is the one to give the phone number, but they let the guy off the hook without incident...probably because no FAA guys were around at the time. The FAA guys require the ATC controllers to bust the pilots (watch out for the PRM approaches as they will call you on the monitor frequency)

March 10th, 2008, 21:03	#37
wheredhego Junior Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 41	Re: Landing without a clearance - What would you do? And the ATC guys in ATL are all really great. They just got rid of the new "descend via" STARs due to numerous amounts of pilot deviations. I never saw what was so hard about the things, but I guess they had a lot of guys descending into departure corridors or busting the "at or above" fixes. Now they are simply down to speed restrictions, but today we were told to ignore that as well. We'll see what happens tomorrow! Yesterday a Northwest guy busted an altitude and he knew he screwed up bad. (I asked the captain if he had him in sight as we were following...he said NO, so i told him "right there, the guy with his tail tucked between his wings!"). We listened to NW from then on, and usually ground is the one to give the phone number, but they let the guy off the hook without incident...probably because no FAA guys were around at the time. The FAA guys require the ATC controllers to bust the pilots (watch out for the PRM approaches as they will call you on the monitor frequency) __________________ Where'd whooo gooo???