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LoadMasterC141 · February 4th, 2008, 11:50

This kind of crap has happened to me a bunch. I have been on final before, only to see a Chinook go UNDERNEATH me, never making a radio call. I have had Bonanza's turn in front of me after I am already clearly on final, just to beat me down

Just gotta maintain vigilance and "see and avoid". Just like down on the roads, there are plenty of ignorant you-know-whatskies in the air too.

A couple things about what you mentioned that may have helped:

A) My instructor told me never to mention I am flying the ILS if I am not actually cleared to fly the ILS (IE have a safety pilot in your case).

B) When inbound on a long-type final, try to state miles from field and groundspeed if available. That will let other VFR traffic know if they have time to make it in front of you or not. If you are on a 5 mile final moving at 60 knots, A bonanza could easily make a quick base to final and never be a bother.

C) There is no ordained "you're gonna break a law if you don't use" active runway at non-towered airports. If someone wants to use another runway, that is their prerogative, but generally can be considered bad practice if the pattern is busy.

February 4th, 2008, 11:50	#6
LoadMasterC141 Old Skool Join Date: May 2006 Location: Live in Temple, TX - From Ithaca, NY - Wish I was on an island in Fiji Posts: 1,909	Re: The importance of staying ahead of the game This kind of crap has happened to me a bunch. I have been on final before, only to see a Chinook go UNDERNEATH me, never making a radio call. I have had Bonanza's turn in front of me after I am already clearly on final, just to beat me down Just gotta maintain vigilance and "see and avoid". Just like down on the roads, there are plenty of ignorant you-know-whatskies in the air too. A couple things about what you mentioned that may have helped: A) My instructor told me never to mention I am flying the ILS if I am not actually cleared to fly the ILS (IE have a safety pilot in your case). B) When inbound on a long-type final, try to state miles from field and groundspeed if available. That will let other VFR traffic know if they have time to make it in front of you or not. If you are on a 5 mile final moving at 60 knots, A bonanza could easily make a quick base to final and never be a bother. C) There is no ordained "you're gonna break a law if you don't use" active runway at non-towered airports. If someone wants to use another runway, that is their prerogative, but generally can be considered bad practice if the pattern is busy. __________________ CFI, CFII, MEI, AMEL, ASEL, IFR, IGI 500TT 115ME Ex- USAF C141B Crewmember Ex- Cube Monkey Getting paid to fly! (little stuff)