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Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer  We are assuming that you don't consider your loss of comm as an emergency, right?
You have a problem. The biggest is that, unless you have an IFR Appproach GPS, there is no approach that you can fly since (a) they have no IAF and (b) require radar.
But you're getting into territory where there is some room for serious disagreement. You say you were "cleared to opa locka." So whey are you waiting until ETA anywhere?
91.185(c)(3) talks about two kinds of clearance limits:
(i) one from where and approach begins. You don't have that since there's no IAF; and
(ii) one from where an approach doesn't begin. In that case you go to a fix from where an approach begins.
Oops.
But your clearance limit isn't a "fix." It's the airport. There is a very strong school of thought out there that that's where you go. Best way that you can.
I would do exactly what you suggest, but I wouldn't do an uncharted hold at DHP waiting for ETA.
This should be an interesting discussion. There is legitimate disagreement about this. Part of it is the reality that these were designed for a non-radar environment. That doesn't only mean the common "heck they can see you so just go to the airport." Non-radar also means that timing is king - reporting points where you give ETAs at each one along the way. No wonder the rules required holding until ETA - everyone's depending on your time calculations and if you didn't follow them, who knows who else might be in the airspace you want to occupy.
The other piece is that 91.185 simply doesn't account for all lost comm situations. Notice the questions like yours - all of the good ones deal with scenarios where the rule doesn't fit exactly. |
I see... but why wouldn't I hold at IAF (molts or that other one... OKRAS or somethign?) until ETA? I thought thats what I was supposed to do. at least that is what my notes say.
not too many responses btw.. interesting, did I post this in the wrong section or something? lol