[calcapt]

Originally Posted by jtrain609

Check it out.

I could continue to defend my thinking, cite examples in the past when I was tasked with making decisions at my last company as a captain and how it relates to what I'm dealing with now and how I try to lean on my past experience while gaining knowledge from the crews I'm flying with, but I'm going to get called a know it all FO that doesn't want to listen to anybody else.

I could roll over and say, "You're right, I'm a complete idiot with no decision making skills of my own, I need to listen to everything a captain says even when it's wrong" and look like a panzy FO who would let a captain run me into a mountain because it was the captains decision to do so.

I'm damned if I do, and damned if I don't in this discussion. You've made your judgment of what you think about my attitude, decision making skills, experience, CRM skills and rational on a few paragraphs and instead of asking some questions to get some common ground and try to share some information you've decided to lecture. Congrats.

If you'd like to continue to discuss this one calcapt, and I'd love to, send me a PM because I'm done with this thread. This has gone from a discussion to a lecture and I'm not really sure what the point is because you seem to assume I haven't thought about any of the same factors that you're discussing above with the assumption that I'm unable to do so.

Also I apologize if this comes across as condescending, but I'm not really sure if I have better works to try to explain myself. Again, if you'd like to continue to discuss this, and if you'd like to try to actually impart some wisdom, feel free to send me a PM.

No apologies necessary John and no PMs are on the way. You have been subjected to the last of my lectures since I am quite certain we will never fly together, at least not at CAL.