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Old January 13th, 2008, 11:49   #159
Ian J
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Default Re: Don't need a degree eh?

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Originally Posted by jtrain609 View Post
The purpose was not to pat myself on the back, Ian, it was to give these kids a point of reference. How would you like to go into a test not knowing what you're up against?

Teacher: We're giving you a test today

Student: Alright! Over what?

Teacher: I can't tell you that, explaining the material to you might make you feel like you've done less preparation than me, so I'm just going to give you the test.

Student: But how are we supposed to know what the answers are if we have no frame of reference.

Teacher: Well I gave the answers to some of your class mates

Student: But, that's BS! They might know more than me because I didn't get the opportunity to have all the cards on the table!

Teacher: Deal with it, and good luck!

Ian to be completely honest my resume isn't that impressive, and if people think that it's really all that great then they need some SERIOUS introspection into their own career. When I'm up against guys like you, Seggy, FlyChicaga, Doug, Fly4Pay and all these other cats that have WAY more experience than I do, I shudder to think of how an interview would go down with me, Segs and Matt all in an interview at once. Simply put I wouldn't be invited to said interview, and if I was I'd be laughed out the door. How am I supposed to compete with a guy that has time in the military flying helicopters for thousands of hours and has some as an aircraft commander? I can't, simply put And THAT sir drives ME to better myself because as soon as I realize I'm behind the power curve, it gives me pause to realize that if I don't get on the ball I'm going to be left out in the cold.
John,

I understood all that from the get go. Like I said before - the college degree topic is a valuable one, no doubt. I also understand your intent was not to pat yourself on the back. It's just in your effort to get your message out in your original posts - something got lost along the way. You've clarified yourself (in numerous posts), and as long as someone reads ALL of this thread, they should understand now.

And for those who say this thread has predictably turned into a "my way is better than yours" thread, try and read all the posts without so much skimming. This was neither the point of the OP, nor do most posters tend to share that opinion.

As a non 121 guy just gleaning information from the JC masses over the last two years, this is a pretty simple subject. If I were to sum up all of the posts here into the most critical, need to know information about this subject, it would look like this:

- To get higher in the 121 world, most likely you'll need a degree. No matter the rare instances where one might be hired without it, chances are, you'll need it.

- If you have a degree, you are not necessarily smarter or dumber than those without.

- If you don't have one, you are not necessarily smarter or dumber than those with.

- If you don't have one, you can still be pretty successful in the aviation business - but you have a lesser chance of working for a major airline.

- If you do have one, it doesn't guarantee you will get hired with a major airline.

- Flight experience is very important. But if an airline wants a degree, they want a degree.

Pretty simple?
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