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Old December 15th, 2007, 15:57   #91
MFT1Air
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Default Re: Stating the obviously unbovious

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor View Post
As a professional pilot, I just find it absolutely shocking that people are jumping for joy over flying a bus-full of passengers in a turbojet-powered aircraft for $70k/year.

I can see if you're flying five or six, but 50? 70? 90? 130? 300?
Are you saying CAs or FOs making 70k? If you're saying CAs, I'll agree that it's ludicrious. If you're talking FOs, well. . .now it becomes subjective given the type of aircraft being flown. 70K for a 737 or larger equates to a significant more experience. For a 737 FO, 70k start doesn't seem unreasonable.

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Perhaps I just expect more compensation from a profession where I've got jeopardy from recurrent every six months, a medical every six months and where we have a much more grave responsibility than a plumber, but we'll cheerfully accept less and PAY for the opportunity to do so.
. . .and I'll agree. My point? Most don't cheerfully accept; many simply do nothing but complain. My point is always to continuously negotiate. (No, I'm not advocating union either)

Lastly,

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Originally Posted by Doug Taylor View Post
That's my final comment on the thread, but I'm standing by with the fire extinguisher because after all, I'm a mod!
I don't see you as a mod. You're a degreed, experienced FO for a major airline. You've progressed through the professional aviation ladder with success and competence. I see your pay comparable to a seasoned midlevel 737 CA or more.

For FOs in an RJ one month after training? Significantly less money. Hell no, 19k is ridiculous. Mid 25k to 28k to start perhaps. . . even with someone with 250/25TT having successfully completed training. . .which is where it has gone so far.

. . .and I'd negotiate for that amount as well. . .who else move on once I gained the experience.

Short term sacrifice for long term gain.
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