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Old December 3rd, 2007, 10:28   #19
nosehair
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Default Re: "Cross Sharr at 7000..."

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Originally Posted by TFaudree_ERAU View Post
If we were given a crossing restriction 5 minutes before we need to start the descent, I fully agree that we need to advise ATC. However, if it is a bang-bang, then I don't think its necessary, since we're basically starting the descent at the same time I'm reading it back.
"Reading it back" is not reporting leaving.

I know that is the current philosophy of the radar / transponder only type pilots today, so I understand your confusion.

But, simply enough, the AIM does not read that way: it says "anytime you vacate", so a proper readback would include the phrase, "leaving xxx thousand".

I know it's old school, but I've been doing it so long, I aint gonna quit - it comes as natural as saying the word "leaving" in the readback as long as you are simultaneously pulling throttes back and pitching down in the readback.

Even with the ol' trusty altitude encoder and watchful controller, I am still more comfortable with a descent in IMC when I tell the controller that's what I'm doing.

But hey,that's just an Old Timer's way...whadda I know?
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