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woog315 · October 10th, 2007, 06:52

Tonight I was shooting VFR practice approaches in the area with my student. We were on with center into an uncontrolled field on LOC back course RWY12 (intending to go missed). Controller asks our intentions after the approach and we tell him we're flying the published miss and holding over the VOR (which is about 6 miles SE from the field, about a 110 heading from the runway direct to the VOR). He says "ok, depart the airport VFR then call me for the next approach." and sends us to CTAF

As we pass the FAF, another plane shows up on frequency and announces their intentions to land on RWY30. we talk to one another and work out how to do it without getting in one another's way. When I go missed, he is on about a 4 mile right base, essentially in our flight path to the vor, but since we're talking its not a problem and we aren't dangerously close- but of course I stay on CTAF to avoid any problems. After we pass him and we're about 3 miles from the airport, I switch over to Center (we only had 1 radio) and he chastises me for taking so long to switch, saying I should have switched over to let him know I had the traffic in sight.

First of all, I was VFR... that means providing my own separation, so I can't imagine the safest thing to do would be to tell the guy "see ya" and switch over to Center while we're less than a mile apart and flying opposite direction ... Second, How am I supposed to know if the other plane is talking to Center and is even a concern of Centers? I was VFR traffic in an uncontrolled airport, why wouldn't I stay on CTAF to talk with possibly conflicting traffic coming into the same field? Any controllers have any insight?

October 10th, 2007, 06:52	#1
woog315 Junior Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 97	VFR practice approaches Tonight I was shooting VFR practice approaches in the area with my student. We were on with center into an uncontrolled field on LOC back course RWY12 (intending to go missed). Controller asks our intentions after the approach and we tell him we're flying the published miss and holding over the VOR (which is about 6 miles SE from the field, about a 110 heading from the runway direct to the VOR). He says "ok, depart the airport VFR then call me for the next approach." and sends us to CTAF As we pass the FAF, another plane shows up on frequency and announces their intentions to land on RWY30. we talk to one another and work out how to do it without getting in one another's way. When I go missed, he is on about a 4 mile right base, essentially in our flight path to the vor, but since we're talking its not a problem and we aren't dangerously close- but of course I stay on CTAF to avoid any problems. After we pass him and we're about 3 miles from the airport, I switch over to Center (we only had 1 radio) and he chastises me for taking so long to switch, saying I should have switched over to let him know I had the traffic in sight. First of all, I was VFR... that means providing my own separation, so I can't imagine the safest thing to do would be to tell the guy "see ya" and switch over to Center while we're less than a mile apart and flying opposite direction ... Second, How am I supposed to know if the other plane is talking to Center and is even a concern of Centers? I was VFR traffic in an uncontrolled airport, why wouldn't I stay on CTAF to talk with possibly conflicting traffic coming into the same field? Any controllers have any insight?