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Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer  It may be related to a blurb in FAA Order 7130.3 |
As far as I can tell, ATC has no procedures in place to apply the criteria in this order. I also think that ATC does not have in their possession the templates mentioned in the order, so it makes any airspace reduction moot. And I suspect most controllers have read the order.
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Originally Posted by MidlifeFlyer No, "established in the hold" is not a phrase defined in the PCG, AIM or Controller handbook. But "established" is. Sometimes, it's pretty much English. |
Not in any meaningful way. Now, if they said report established on the inbound, you'd have something.
As we've discussed before, I doubt ATC has any idea of what "established" means, it's just a word they use. If they had any interest in pilots having the understanding that "established in a hold" meant the inbound leg, it would have been published in the AIM, since it's an ATC document.