May 21st, 2007, 22:43
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|  Re: Controller Questioning A Pilot's Technique . . .
Quote: ZTL Training Department- Once cleared to land, cancel landing clearance only if unsafe ground conditions exist (runway incursion, etc.).
- Do not cancel landing clearance because you think the pilot is too far off the localizer of too high or low -- the pilot is in charge of that decision. ATC cannot instruct a pilot to call a "missed approach" -- that's a call only the pilot can make.
| Quote: FAA Order 7110.65R
Quote: 3-1-10. OBSERVED ABNORMALITIES
When requested by a pilot or when you deem it necessary, inform an aircraft of any observed abnormal aircraft condition.
PHRASEOLOGY-
(Item) APPEAR/S (observed condition).
EXAMPLE-
"Landing gear appears up."
"Landing gear appears down and in place."
"Rear baggage door appears open."
| Quote: 2-1-6. SAFETY ALERT
Issue a safety alert to an aircraft if you are aware the aircraft is in a position/altitude which, in your judgment, places it in unsafe proximity to terrain, obstructions, or other aircraft. Once the pilot informs you action is being taken to resolve the situation, you may discontinue the issuance of further alerts. Do not assume that because someone else has responsibility for the aircraft that the unsafe situation has been observed and the safety alert issued; inform the appropriate controller.
NOTE-
1. The issuance of a safety alert is a first priority (see para 2-1-2, Duty Priority) once the controller observes and recognizes a situation of unsafe aircraft proximity to terrain, obstacles, or other aircraft. Conditions, such as workload, traffic volume, the quality/limitations of the radar system, and the available lead time to react are factors in determining whether it is reasonable for the controller to observe and recognize such situations. While a controller cannot see immediately the development of every situation where a safety alert must be issued, the controller must remain vigilant for such situations and issue a safety alert when the situation is recognized.
2. Recognition of situations of unsafe proximity may result from MSAW/E-MSAW/LAAS, automatic altitude readouts, Conflict/Mode C Intruder Alert, observations on a PAR scope, or pilot reports.
3. Once the alert is issued, it is solely the pilot's prerogative to determine what course of action, if any, will be taken.
| | I appreciate the controller's desire to not have his runway closed down because of debris, and, maybe s/he had the Comair Lexington accident in mind where the question was asked several times about why the controller didn't do more.
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3. Once the alert is issued, it is solely the pilot's prerogative to determine what course of action, if any, will be taken.
| Maybe the controller felt they were helping the pilot decide his course of action.  |
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