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ATC RET 2003 · April 9th, 2007, 14:06

Routings are usually done with either a written or verbal agreement between 2 sectors/facilities. Direct routings (especially long-range ones) were almost always coordinated verbally.... but we would usually stick to the pref routes and STARS during the day and evening shifts and on the mid shift, the standard was everybody goes direct. This was always accomplished by calling the next sector(s) at the beginning of the shift and working out a "blanket" agreement for the duration of the shift. Part of the agreement was that each of us would work out the approval "down the line".

I worked exclusively in the Southeastern US so can't speak for the part of the country you mentioned, but I wouldn't think that Seattle did any actual coordinating with Chicago... rather they probably worked it out with Salt Lake who in turn worked it out with Minneapolis who did the talking to Chicago.

I don't know what the timeframe was in your scenario, but maybe in that part of the country they can do direct routings more often than just on the mid.

As for equipment that assists in determining if the routing will work, we could enter the flight as direct to XYZ and that would take care of our facility for sure, but you never really could be certain of how the routing would be processed by the next centers down the line.

There is a gizmo called URET (User Request Evaluation Tool) that was implemented in my final facility long after I was gone, so I don't have any working knowledge of it. Maybe someone who is still working can shed some light on it as it pertains to your question... Fox Xray comes to mind.

April 9th, 2007, 14:06	#2
ATC RET 2003 Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2006 Location: Fedvul Jawja Posts: 362	Re: Going Direct Routings are usually done with either a written or verbal agreement between 2 sectors/facilities. Direct routings (especially long-range ones) were almost always coordinated verbally.... but we would usually stick to the pref routes and STARS during the day and evening shifts and on the mid shift, the standard was everybody goes direct. This was always accomplished by calling the next sector(s) at the beginning of the shift and working out a "blanket" agreement for the duration of the shift. Part of the agreement was that each of us would work out the approval "down the line". I worked exclusively in the Southeastern US so can't speak for the part of the country you mentioned, but I wouldn't think that Seattle did any actual coordinating with Chicago... rather they probably worked it out with Salt Lake who in turn worked it out with Minneapolis who did the talking to Chicago. I don't know what the timeframe was in your scenario, but maybe in that part of the country they can do direct routings more often than just on the mid. As for equipment that assists in determining if the routing will work, we could enter the flight as direct to XYZ and that would take care of our facility for sure, but you never really could be certain of how the routing would be processed by the next centers down the line. There is a gizmo called URET (User Request Evaluation Tool) that was implemented in my final facility long after I was gone, so I don't have any working knowledge of it. Maybe someone who is still working can shed some light on it as it pertains to your question... Fox Xray comes to mind.