[jtrain609]

Yup, miss off the VOR 25 and then the ILS to OXR, missed off of that to SQUID for the hold, then back into Burbank for the ILS runway 8.

We try not to land at CMA as you guys have so much more traffic than OXR. If you didn't know, all the Amflight 8000 flights are training flights. So when you see Amflight 8031 pull some bone headed move, it's because the guy that's being trained probably has like 2 hours in the Chieftain at that point.

Of course working Socal approach you probably saw TONS of stupid pilot tricks outta those flight numbers. I know when I was in training I did my fair share of dumb moves. Bad entry's to holds, getting lost, needing delay vectors, etc. etc.