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Originally Posted by Bandit_Driver  RICED.RICED2 from IAD...it was our preferred route...when wx or limitations didn't allow we had to go over the land route to the West of JFK and ATC kept us low 3000-7000 MSL. This route was always nightmare for us due to constant TA/RA's... |
RICED makes sense... though I'm not sure how far too far over the Atlantic is for going over RICED ? Were you vectored far out to the east enroute to RICED ? We (ATC) really don't know an A/C's limitations... during swap it is very common for A/C to get off the ground on routes they can't fly due to equipment limitations.
A lot of the traffic from the south will also see routing via SIE..BOUNO.
Going west of the NYC area big 3 metros you will get treated like a red headed step child ... I know traffic destined places like KBLM and KTTN get forced low (4000') far out to the east then fly west a long way at low altitude to get under the NY metro arrivals.
I hear you on the problems flying low going west for HPN... it's a KNOWN problem with no fix in sight. That whole NY / northeast needs such a major change but it is so political it will most likely never happen. It's my understanding that there has been an airspace redesign effort in place for better then a decade that hasn't gotten off the drawing board.